Orton Gillingham based reading????

Generaly the description of the program would say so, and most of the OG programs are fairly well-known, at least by name. Are you asking about a particular one?

Janis

No, just a question in general as I didn’t know the names of Orton Gillingham based approaches.

I’m not sure if you know, but Orton Gillingham (OG) is a kind of generic term (wasn’t at one time and there is a program that still is pure OG) that includes a no. of different “flavors” or brand names. What they have in common is they are multisensory; they explicitly teach all reading/spelling skills; they start at the beginning (phoneme sounds); they are very gradual in that they start with sounds and build to vowel consonant (VC); CV; CVC; etc words; teach syllable types; etc. They vary in the ways they are multisensory; the exact scope and sequence and depth; various techniques; and the degree that training is required to teach them (generally they require it); and the age and size of group they are most applicable for.

Some more complete programs that require training:
Texas Scottish Rite
Wilson
Alphabetic phonics
Multisensory Teaching Approach (MTA)
Sonday system
Language!
SPIRE
Barton Reading and Spelling (training on video tape)

Some less complete OG based programs include (don’t require training):
Angling for words
Starting over
PAF (Preventing Reading Failure)
Recipe for Reading

etc.

HTH,

—des

I don’t know any of these in person, but some others I see advertised in the International Dyslexia Association materials are

Slingerland
Spalding
Lexia CD

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Here are a couple of articles from this site that might also be helpful:

http://www.ldonline.org/ld_indepth/reading/reading_approaches.html

http://www.ldonline.org/ld_indepth/reading/mssl_methods.html

Janis

It has become a “buyer beware” situation, though; I’ve seen programs that have been called “O-G based” or “based on the principles of Orton GIllingham” on the grounds that they are phonics and not sight-word oriented and have a few activities using different senses… a far cry from the kind of rigorous, tightly structured, TEACH EVERYTHING approach that the real thing is. (I must add that many students DO NOT NEED that kind of intensity and redundancy; the programs are designed for kids with dyslexia, not your average student.)
It’s sort of lke saying you get Mexican food at Taco Bell :-)

[quote=”Janis”]Here are a couple of articles from this site that might also be helpful:

http://www.ldonline.org/ld_indepth/reading/reading_approaches.html

http://www.ldonline.org/ld_indepth/reading/mssl_methods.html

Janis[/quote]

Janis,

Thanks for posting these links… I was looking throught the posts on the Bulletin Board (and not on the LDOnline Website) for this kind of information.

The only thing I can’t find on those pages is how the Barton System compares…

Do you have any input as to how the Barton System relates to the other programs? ie. What is the strength vs. weakness of the Barton System?

Thanks,
Lea Ann Savage

Well Barton is an OG based program. It is similar in the ways that many of the OG systems are similar— multisensory, divides of the learning of sounds and words similarly, uses real and nonsense words, uses totally decodable text, etc. etc.

It is different in the following ways:

It is designed so that the training is part of the materials (Each level comes with 2 video tapes); the program is scripted (which is good for parents and people who don’t want to spend all their time doing prep); it pulls in some aspects of visualization, etc similar to Lindamood Bell; and it has a whole level soley on phonemic awareness.

I think that the first level is so good I would recommend it to someone using some other OG approach as well (Many of the older programs do not contain a separate PA element. I have seen big improvements just from that.)

—des

While some of the “OG based” programs make that statement because they know it will help their sales, in Sue Barton’s case it’s an utterly legitimate claim and the program is very well grounded in OG methods and philosophy. The official OG folks are rigorous in what has the privilege of being “offically” OG — basically, anything simplified enough for more general consumption isn’t going to meet that standard. This makes sense; training to the official level means you’re ready to address myriad neurological and educational issues. However, not everybody has access to that level of expertise and fortunately an awful lot of students don’t need it. (My OG training added PA as the knowledge was added — but it also wasn’t a marketed “program” per se.)

Yes, Barton is very legitimate. I think several school districts and private schools (esp. in CA) are using it. It is a pricy program but not if you take into account that you are getting training as part of the program. She will also talk to anyone about any kind of problem, there is no extra charge for this. The workshops and so on are also very good. If you have a chance to hear her at a conference or other occasion be sure to do so, as I think you will enjoy it regardless of the reading program you end up using.

—des