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Submitted by an LD OnLine user on

HI

Hopefully Janis will have some ideas for me. Here are the latest problems.

I have mentioned before that he brings all A’s home and can’t do any of the work. Well it is report card time again and guess what all A’s. Sounds wonderful but there is a catch. He still can’t do them for us. Can verbably tell me his spelling words like (got, hot, rot, but, nut) but to read them is another story. Can read some but not all if they are in a list he can most of the time but if any of those words are in a sentence or story forget he doesn’t know them. If you are studying for spelling and give him the list out of order that messes him up to. He will tell you that is not the next word you need to go in order.

Today I was sent home a stack of papers that really concerns me. They are all 100% but this time most of them say “fixed 100%, or took 4 days 100% or 100% with lots of help” If you look at all of those comments and then 100% plus the fact he doesn’t know how to do any of it really makes you wonder what is going on there.

He is to be working out of the 1st grade book and only be read the 2nd grade stories. I found a test in this stack today were he took a 2nd grade reading test. Most of these papers are things like:

chosing ed or ing to add to the end of a word.
Use a word from the box to complete the sentence
write the word that completes the sentence
circle the vowel sounds in the paragraph
Abc order

Some of these words in the word box are hard considering he has a hard time with cat hat mat ect.. The words are like ( happy, hungry, surprised, billy, fussy, cranky) Am I nuts or are these kind of advanced for someone at a first grade level?

I guess I am just worried that they are trying to go to fast before building a good foundation. Wouldn’t that make things worse?

Everytime we have a meeting they get the best of me. My emotions play into it and then they have me giving in to them. Everything we suggest either they can’t or won’t try. I suggest other reading programs they can’t do it. Or ask for a list of tutors in the area we don’t have anyone with sp ed training. Ask for them to just start at the beginning with him again and go from there well they can’t do that either because there isn’t enough time in the day for one on one.

Any more help would be great. I am becoming a frequent flyer here!

Thanks
Michele

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 3:17 AM

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as his main strategy for spelling and reading but he doesn’t have a real grasp on the phonological processes he needs for reading.
About 6 years ago I was in a similar boat with my daughter. She was failing all her subjects because she couldn’t read. The school didn’t know what to do for her, I was the one who said enough is enough and decided to get trained in Lindamood-Bell processes to take care of the problem. I ended up teaching her to read during the summer.

Many parents can’t go to those extremes so an inexpensive alternative would be to try Reading Reflex, do the assessment in the book with him to see what he knows and that will give us a better picture of what you are dealing with. Once we know that then we can assist you in helping him yourself.

The bottom line here is you are going to have to become your own expert and you can’t rely on the school district to give your son the remediation he needs.

Submitted by michele on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 3:20 AM

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Thanks

I just finished reading that book. I am going to try it. I hope it works!
I am just worried I will mess him up. I have my own LD issues. But the way I see it I can’t do any more harm than they are.

Michele

Submitted by Helen on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 3:57 AM

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I think you are on the right track with Reading Reflex but I also think you should put a request in writing to the school to have your son tested for a learning disability. You can not always count on a school to provide the remediation needed but at least testing would give you a baseline to his current level. My older son who is now 18 and in college could only read two words on his first spelling list in 2nd grade. Testing showed he had very deficient decoding skills. Luckily, the Special Ed. teacher was trrained and believed in Lindamood Bell and he got the remediation he needed.

Put your request in writing and the public school cannot ignore your request.

Helen

Submitted by Laura in CA on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 6:12 AM

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Michele,
The nice thing about Reading Reflex is it’s relatively simple to use, so I don’t think you have to worry about making any major mistakes. Also, if you have any concerns or questions you can ask here or on the Read America website.

Submitted by Beth from FL on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 3:54 PM

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I am not LD but have weak auditory processing skills. I never had trouble learning to read but any sort of phonics was a mystery to me, a fact that became clear when I started to help my son. I just wanted to tell you that I learned the code along with my son using PG. I initially had my husband do it with him (he has superb auditory processing skills which only one of our three children inherited). But after awhile I took the plunge.

Beth

Submitted by michele on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 4:01 PM

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Hi

You sound alot like me. I am going to give it my best try.

I was looking on the read america site under materials. What other things did you buy to start Reading Reflex? All I have is the book.

Thanks
Michele

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 11/07/2003 - 1:01 AM

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with the manipulatives on them and make up a bunch of envelopes to hold them or you can use ziplock baggies and file them in a shoe box. I am an SLP so I can help you if you need help with understanding some of the phonological stuff. You can do this…I did it and that was way before I became an SLP.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 11/07/2003 - 1:50 AM

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You might want to invest in the company’s $59 parent supplement. This includes worksheet pages for both basic code and advanced code, and a set of cardstock manipulatives that you can cut up.

If you go this route, understand that most children do not need the basic code worksheets. Use them only as reinforcement when the child really needs them. Otherwise you can spend way too much time on worksheet activities and slow down the entire process.

Patti’s suggestion is what most people do, and it works perfectly well. In that case, wait until you get to advanced code and then order just the $39 parent support manual (which is just the advanced code worksheets from the parent supplement).

In either case, be sure to invest in a small white board and colored dry-erase markers. You can lay out the manipulatives on the white board, and I have yet to meet a child who didn’t like using dry-erase markers (low odor).

Nancy

Submitted by Janis on Sat, 11/08/2003 - 1:48 AM

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Hi, Michelle,

Sorry I missed this post! But my friends here have given you the exact advice I would have! I very much like the $39 parent support book to use with Reading Reflex. You can make copies of the pages that need cutting out so you don’t have to cut up your book.

I would just say that you need to be certain you know the sounds for the sound pictures (letters or letter patterns). If you were never taught phonics, I think you should either order the audiotape that gives the sounds or else talk wth someone who can go through them with you. But I am sure you will do fine! Do ask us if you have any questions.

Janis

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