training program for homeschooling mom

I just found linguiSystems products how does that compare to lips of LBell program?

I certainly don’t want to discourage you, but while I use LiPS myself it was hard for me to learn and has required a lot of practice on my part. But then, I never had phonics myself and really learning to teach reading has been a lot of work for me. I think many people on these BB will recommend Reading Reflex for your little child. The book is easily aquired and easily taught. I am also very happy with the information in the new book by Sally Shaywitz “Overcoming Dyslexia”. She names specific programs and has a chapter on teaching a young child to read. I am not familiar with Lingusystems. LiPS is wonderful, but probably easier for you to implement if you have some background in phonics.

makes products for Speech and :Language pathologists to use in therapy. What are your child’s needs and has he/she been tested?

… it is the more comprehensive of the training programs. It *is* more complicated and the more you already know about phonics the better. And if you get good at it, there’s a pretty high demand for tutors. You can learn a *lot* about the language and about multisensory learning that will make teaching anything and everything a little easier because you’ll have a better understanding of the role of language in the learning.
Reading Reflex gets a lot of rave reviews. Its authors are enthusiastic — just by personality — and it spreads. Not a bad thing (except when they start trashing other good programs), especially if Reading Reflex is enough for your kiddo… and at its price it’s worth starting with. There’s also a lady on the vegsource bulletin board who is a RR expert and has a zillion other tricks up her sleeve and is very helpful (and not afraid to pull in other things that work).

I talk my now 7 year old speech and language diabled child to read, but I can’t give you a magic progam that will help. :( I started when he was three and non verbal - he learned to identify letter sounds and use them as an aid in prnouncing words so that we could understand him. He is still more intelligible when reading outloud than when just talking.

I reading the Reading Reflex book very helpful, but my son was reading on a second grade level before he could do the Blending Game so I didn’t actually use it to teach him, just used techniques I got from them. I used “At Last! A Reading Program for Every Child!” along with 1950’s Dick and Jane readers to get past the blending issues then went to real books and Explode the Code workbooks as soon as he could blend on his own. None of this was a pre-planned program so much as a program that evolved to find ways around whatever the current roadblock was with a goal of having him able to independently decode as soon as possible.

So my suggestion, as a homeschooling mom, is get your hand on as many phonics-based programs as you can and read them all. Read, learn, get so you understand phonics backwards and forwards. The LiPS book is excellent just to read and develop your own understranding should you decide against taking the training. Definitely read “Reading Reflex.” I also really like “Let’s Read: a linguistic approach” although I ignore his nonsensical isistance that you not directly teach the letter sounds. I am using the lessons in that book with my 5 year old fairly successfully right now, but he has no known speech or language issues.

Elizabeth

Ari,

While I am currently using Phono-Graphix (Reading Reflex), I am also considering Lindamood-Bell. I think Lindamood Bell is particularly suited to children with significant speech/language delays. LiPS might help his articulation, too.

My advice is to definitely try Reading Reflex first. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If you use that for awhile and the code is just not being retained, then your child might need LiPS and Seeing Stars. It is a big investment, so do try Reading Reflex first.

You would not use Recipe for Reading if you changed over to either PG or Lindamood Bell.

But if you really want to understand reading, please get a copy of “Why Our Children Can’t Read” by Diane McGuinness and read it first. She recommends PG and Lindamood Bell and it is very helpful to understand how these programs are different.

Janis

thank for responding. I just heard about wilson reading program -Fundations. are you familiar with this? Also are you recommending Reading reflex over recipe for reading ? If so , why ? Thank you.

are you familiar with the wilson reading program - Fundations? thanks for your info..

thanks for responding. Did you take the lips lindamood bell workshop ? are you familiar with the wilson reading program -fundations ? Look forward to hearing back.

I use a combination of moderate-cost programs, similar to what Elizabeth in PA describes. If you are interested, I have collected down several very long posts that I have typed up. and will download them to you if you want them. Just email a request.

I use a similar approach of collecting various moderate-cost materials and combining according to the student’s needs. If you are interested in more ideas, or if you have any specific questions to ask about getting over the next step, email me any time.

I’ve always heard that Wilson is better for older children. In my district, they use it for middle school on up. I think there now are materials for younger children but it was originally developed for older kids.

Beth

I would also recommend reading reflex. I have the book Janis is talking about and it goes over tons of research.

My copy is a few years old and since then there is even more research that I have read on this board using brain scans to show that both Lindamood bell and phonographix (reading reflex.) can change the brain.

Reading reflex worked for us when nothing else did.

Wilson is another program int he same general family. LMB incoroporates more speech elements and the training is more intensive and geared towards more individualizing in both diagnosis and designing the program. Wilson is a very good, solid, structured language program that was originally designed for older learners (adolescents and adults). This means there’s a lot less ‘cute’ stuff — it’s very no-nonsense. Not a lot of games, playin’ with making letters in hair gel, that sort of thing (which of course a teacher can add)… but lots of good, direct instruction in learning to hear the sounds and read and spell them. The example words and sentences and stories are also geared to older students (I believe they have a version out for the younger ones now) — so they’re about jobs instead of cats.

Hi; I don’t know everything about LMB, but do know that you’ll get the same results in one-tenth the time with Phono-Graphix, which is explained in the book Reading Reflex. It’s written for a parent who has no background in teaching reading and I have confidence it will greatly help. I suggest it first, as it is the easiest to understand, fastest, and least expensive method out there.
Now that there are 2 of us here recommending it, I hope you’ll give it a try.

I’ll answer your q’s about it if you e me at my address …[email protected]. (I’m a trained P.G. therapist.)
Leslie in CA