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I get the general feeling that not to many Teachers like inclusion. So you tell me what do we as parents do? My child is in inclusion for Social Studies and Science. The teachers do not want her in there classroom because she is Dyslexic and reading 3 years behind. She is a good girl. She has no BD problems at all, she is a good listener and followes directions well. The only other choice for her is a SElf Contained class. This class has 5 boys in it all of whome have BD.I know of there history and a few have been in much trouble. So this is my choice. And cought in the middle is my sweet child who is being stressed into a scituation we have no control of. I always wonder what her true personality was, the personality she could of had befour school drained her of a stressfree life.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: I empathize with what you’re saying. I would have liked to have seen what my son would have been like if he hadn’t had to deal with school these many years.In the meantime, how do you know these teachers does not want her? What signs do they give of that?I’d like to know that before saying much but who is your daughter’s main teacher? Is there a school psychologist? Perhaps they could talk with these teachers or perhaps you could. I can’t quite see why teachers would mind any child who listens and behaves even if reading is an issue. Ask them to give you the reading to do at home and you read it outloud to her. What could be the problem?I understand your reluctance to put her in self-contained with all the boys so it makes sense to work with the regular Science and Social Studies classroom to get it to work for her.I get the general feeling that not to many Teachers like inclusion.
: So you tell me what do we as parents do? My child is in inclusion
: for Social Studies and Science. The teachers do not want her in
: there classroom because she is Dyslexic and reading 3 years
: behind. She is a good girl. She has no BD problems at all, she is
: a good listener and followes directions well. The only other
: choice for her is a SElf Contained class. This class has 5 boys in
: it all of whome have BD.I know of there history and a few have
: been in much trouble. So this is my choice. And cought in the
: middle is my sweet child who is being stressed into a scituation
: we have no control of. I always wonder what her true personality
: was, the personality she could of had befour school drained her of
: a stressfree life.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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This is my first year teaching in an inclusive setting. I am a special education teacher and am becomming more and more aware that the regular education teacher (who is teaching to mastery) is not satisfied with the small accomplishments of the student with special needs. Ideally all would appreciate the uniqueness of each other but when it gets in the way of high expectations and desired success then it becomes a burden. In the small classroom where the individual needs of the students are considered— individual accomplishments become more valuable. I haven’t make up my mind about collaboration yet but I am hoping it gets better.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: I get the general feeling that not to many Teachers like inclusion.
: So you tell me what do we as parents do? My child is in inclusion
: for Social Studies and Science. The teachers do not want her in
: there classroom because she is Dyslexic and reading 3 years
: behind. She is a good girl. She has no BD problems at all, she is
: a good listener and followes directions well. The only other
: choice for her is a SElf Contained class. This class has 5 boys in
: it all of whome have BD.I know of there history and a few have
: been in much trouble. So this is my choice. And cought in the
: middle is my sweet child who is being stressed into a scituation
: we have no control of. I always wonder what her true personality
: was, the personality she could of had befour school drained her of
: a stressfree life.I am a special education teacher who collaborates for four of my classes. THe key to regular education teachers accepting your child is support from your special education teacher. The regular ed. teachers are frustrated. They have never had the training on proper stategies for children other than the “norm”. I have spoken to several teachers who just need help. Ask your special ed. teacher if she can collaborate for those classes or their may be someone who can come into the class with your child. Those lessons must be modified and the special education teacher must teach the reg. ed. teacher how to do this. It is a major adjustment for the reg. ed. teacher, but with support, they will be willing to try it.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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The Reg-Ed Teacher just switched last year from Special-ED. She tought Inclusion in Special -Ed for many years. So how can I justify that she dose not know how to modify. Sometimes we get lucky and get a good teacher, sometimes we don’t. But no matter what our children have to pay the price.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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Have you ever thought of homeschooling this child? OR perhaps a private school setting where in a smaller class she might not be so excluded?Public schools are not always the best setting for a child like yours. You might want to explore other options, especially if she is getting near middle school age.: In the meantime, how do you know these teachers does not want her?
: What signs do they give of that?: I’d like to know that before saying much but who is your daughter’s
: main teacher? Is there a school psychologist? Perhaps they could
: talk with these teachers or perhaps you could. I can’t quite see
: why teachers would mind any child who listens and behaves even if
: reading is an issue. Ask them to give you the reading to do at
: home and you read it outloud to her. What could be the problem?: I understand your reluctance to put her in self-contained with all
: the boys so it makes sense to work with the regular Science and
: Social Studies classroom to get it to work for her.: I get the general feeling that not to many Teachers like inclusion.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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I don’t know what I can add to this, but I am a special education teacher who teachs in both inclusion and pull out classes. From what you have said, Linn, it sounds like your daughter is in her least restrictive environment. I would have a meeting with the teacher and ask her what she is doing to meet the needs of your daughter. I don’t think this is asking too much of the teacher because I have parents requesting meeting with me at least once a month. Where is she for the rest of her periods? Is she in an RSP program? If so, contact the RSP teacher for help.Have you ever thought of homeschooling this child? OR perhaps a
: private school setting where in a smaller class she might not be
: so excluded?: Public schools are not always the best setting for a child like
: yours. You might want to explore other options, especially if she
: is getting near middle school age.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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I have looked into private school in R.I. There is one school that is for LD kids. The cost is 23 Thousland a year. I can not aford that at all. I wish that I could home school. This is not a choice for me as I have to work to survive

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 03/20/2001 - 8:50 PM

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If your child is reading 3 years behind, then it is time for some serious intervention. IN the regular class she probably knows that she is behind and that only wears on her self esteem. You can probably get her in a private school at the districts expense. Hook your daughter up with a good learning disabilities tutor and then contact a special ed advocate.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/21/2001 - 10:00 PM

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I am also looking into a private school (model program for dyslexics funded by NYS) and it costs $20,000 a year. I have obtained a lawyer and she is going to make a case for my child to go there. I am crossing my fingers but if that doesn’t work out I am looking into the possibility of an inclusion classroom.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/21/2001 - 10:06 PM

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I agree with you completely, I think Lynn should pursue a private school, I think she would have a decent shot at getting it paid for by the district.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 03/25/2001 - 7:08 PM

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My son has Visual Perception and I know what it is like to feel helpless with the school and teachers. We have had some of the finenest teachers out there. But you need to have a school that will back you all the way and that is not very often found.And like many people you don,t have the money for a private school. I myself think more needs to be done for children with LD its like they just don,t fit into the schools . They would be glad to help as long as you let them put your child where its is easy for them. I don,t think so. Not my child !! It may be a fight but keep it up they are worth it.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 03/31/2001 - 3:54 PM

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As a future teacher, believe me when I say I will do doing my very best to educate ALL the children in my classroom! And, I find it very helpful to read the bulletin boards to inform myself as to what the current concerns of parents are who have children participating in inclusion. Current teachers, if you are reading this, I urge you to retreat and remember why you began teaching and if you can’t seem to remember why after much searching FIND A NEW CAREER!

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 04/08/2001 - 10:01 PM

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Don’t take it personally. Teachers go through various stages when getting involved in inclusion. They are probably unsure of the abilities and need support. It was hard for us too but we are all the better for it… we have learned to work together and also that the responsibility for every child’s education rests on every teacher’s shoulders.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: I empathize with what you’re saying. I would have liked to have seen what my son would have been like if he hadn’t had to deal with school these many years.In the meantime, how do you know these teachers does not want her? What signs do they give of that?I’d like to know that before saying much but who is your daughter’s main teacher? Is there a school psychologist? Perhaps they could talk with these teachers or perhaps you could. I can’t quite see why teachers would mind any child who listens and behaves even if reading is an issue. Ask them to give you the reading to do at home and you read it outloud to her. What could be the problem?I understand your reluctance to put her in self-contained with all the boys so it makes sense to work with the regular Science and Social Studies classroom to get it to work for her.I get the general feeling that not to many Teachers like inclusion.
: So you tell me what do we as parents do? My child is in inclusion
: for Social Studies and Science. The teachers do not want her in
: there classroom because she is Dyslexic and reading 3 years
: behind. She is a good girl. She has no BD problems at all, she is
: a good listener and followes directions well. The only other
: choice for her is a SElf Contained class. This class has 5 boys in
: it all of whome have BD.I know of there history and a few have
: been in much trouble. So this is my choice. And cought in the
: middle is my sweet child who is being stressed into a scituation
: we have no control of. I always wonder what her true personality
: was, the personality she could of had befour school drained her of
: a stressfree life.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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This is my first year teaching in an inclusive setting. I am a special education teacher and am becomming more and more aware that the regular education teacher (who is teaching to mastery) is not satisfied with the small accomplishments of the student with special needs. Ideally all would appreciate the uniqueness of each other but when it gets in the way of high expectations and desired success then it becomes a burden. In the small classroom where the individual needs of the students are considered— individual accomplishments become more valuable. I haven’t make up my mind about collaboration yet but I am hoping it gets better.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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: I get the general feeling that not to many Teachers like inclusion.
: So you tell me what do we as parents do? My child is in inclusion
: for Social Studies and Science. The teachers do not want her in
: there classroom because she is Dyslexic and reading 3 years
: behind. She is a good girl. She has no BD problems at all, she is
: a good listener and followes directions well. The only other
: choice for her is a SElf Contained class. This class has 5 boys in
: it all of whome have BD.I know of there history and a few have
: been in much trouble. So this is my choice. And cought in the
: middle is my sweet child who is being stressed into a scituation
: we have no control of. I always wonder what her true personality
: was, the personality she could of had befour school drained her of
: a stressfree life.I am a special education teacher who collaborates for four of my classes. THe key to regular education teachers accepting your child is support from your special education teacher. The regular ed. teachers are frustrated. They have never had the training on proper stategies for children other than the “norm”. I have spoken to several teachers who just need help. Ask your special ed. teacher if she can collaborate for those classes or their may be someone who can come into the class with your child. Those lessons must be modified and the special education teacher must teach the reg. ed. teacher how to do this. It is a major adjustment for the reg. ed. teacher, but with support, they will be willing to try it.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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The Reg-Ed Teacher just switched last year from Special-ED. She tought Inclusion in Special -Ed for many years. So how can I justify that she dose not know how to modify. Sometimes we get lucky and get a good teacher, sometimes we don’t. But no matter what our children have to pay the price.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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Have you ever thought of homeschooling this child? OR perhaps a private school setting where in a smaller class she might not be so excluded?Public schools are not always the best setting for a child like yours. You might want to explore other options, especially if she is getting near middle school age.: In the meantime, how do you know these teachers does not want her?
: What signs do they give of that?: I’d like to know that before saying much but who is your daughter’s
: main teacher? Is there a school psychologist? Perhaps they could
: talk with these teachers or perhaps you could. I can’t quite see
: why teachers would mind any child who listens and behaves even if
: reading is an issue. Ask them to give you the reading to do at
: home and you read it outloud to her. What could be the problem?: I understand your reluctance to put her in self-contained with all
: the boys so it makes sense to work with the regular Science and
: Social Studies classroom to get it to work for her.: I get the general feeling that not to many Teachers like inclusion.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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I don’t know what I can add to this, but I am a special education teacher who teachs in both inclusion and pull out classes. From what you have said, Linn, it sounds like your daughter is in her least restrictive environment. I would have a meeting with the teacher and ask her what she is doing to meet the needs of your daughter. I don’t think this is asking too much of the teacher because I have parents requesting meeting with me at least once a month. Where is she for the rest of her periods? Is she in an RSP program? If so, contact the RSP teacher for help.Have you ever thought of homeschooling this child? OR perhaps a
: private school setting where in a smaller class she might not be
: so excluded?: Public schools are not always the best setting for a child like
: yours. You might want to explore other options, especially if she
: is getting near middle school age.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/14/2001 - 5:00 AM

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I have looked into private school in R.I. There is one school that is for LD kids. The cost is 23 Thousland a year. I can not aford that at all. I wish that I could home school. This is not a choice for me as I have to work to survive

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 03/20/2001 - 8:50 PM

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If your child is reading 3 years behind, then it is time for some serious intervention. IN the regular class she probably knows that she is behind and that only wears on her self esteem. You can probably get her in a private school at the districts expense. Hook your daughter up with a good learning disabilities tutor and then contact a special ed advocate.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/21/2001 - 10:00 PM

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I am also looking into a private school (model program for dyslexics funded by NYS) and it costs $20,000 a year. I have obtained a lawyer and she is going to make a case for my child to go there. I am crossing my fingers but if that doesn’t work out I am looking into the possibility of an inclusion classroom.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/21/2001 - 10:06 PM

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I agree with you completely, I think Lynn should pursue a private school, I think she would have a decent shot at getting it paid for by the district.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 03/25/2001 - 7:08 PM

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My son has Visual Perception and I know what it is like to feel helpless with the school and teachers. We have had some of the finenest teachers out there. But you need to have a school that will back you all the way and that is not very often found.And like many people you don,t have the money for a private school. I myself think more needs to be done for children with LD its like they just don,t fit into the schools . They would be glad to help as long as you let them put your child where its is easy for them. I don,t think so. Not my child !! It may be a fight but keep it up they are worth it.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 03/31/2001 - 3:54 PM

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As a future teacher, believe me when I say I will do doing my very best to educate ALL the children in my classroom! And, I find it very helpful to read the bulletin boards to inform myself as to what the current concerns of parents are who have children participating in inclusion. Current teachers, if you are reading this, I urge you to retreat and remember why you began teaching and if you can’t seem to remember why after much searching FIND A NEW CAREER!

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 04/08/2001 - 10:01 PM

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Don’t take it personally. Teachers go through various stages when getting involved in inclusion. They are probably unsure of the abilities and need support. It was hard for us too but we are all the better for it… we have learned to work together and also that the responsibility for every child’s education rests on every teacher’s shoulders.

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