NeuroNet

Did you see any improvements with the Fast Forward program? Did her reading level increase? I’m thinking of trying it with my son who has capd and a language based learning difference. Any advice would be great. I don’t know about Neuronet.

I haven’t done Fast Forward yet. Felt she wasn’t ready for it yet until now. I don’t think she could have sat through it. We may do it this summer or summer of 2002 depending on how these other therapies go. I don’t want to overload her. We have been doing Away We Go at home and she was struggling with that so I wanted her to master that before we went to Fast Forward. I can tell you her private speech therapist has had kids go through Fast Forward and she advised me that it would be worthwhile for my daughter and they have seen results with other children. My daughter is not reading yet. Knows a few sight words and is working on beginning letter sounds.

Barb,

My son is doing Neuronet now—with Nancy Rowe the audiologist who developed the program. I am very impressed. My son has a number of deficiencies which Neuronet is addressing—auditory processing, sensory integration, small motor, and word retreival. We have been doing it about 2 months. She has told me about 6-9 months for therapy.

We did Fast Forward last summer which improved his receptive language and auditory memory. NN integrates speech, rhythm, and movement while FFW is listening. We did the pretesting for Interactive Metronome and my son scored so badly on it that the therapist wanted him to get some OT therapy first. He had severe bilaterality issues—coordinating two sides of his body. We have elected to do NN instead and I very glad because my son’s core problems revolve around the auditory system.

You asked specifically about word retreival. My son actually did not score as having a true retreival problem, despite very low scores on standardized tests at school. Nancy Rowe told us that the basic connections in the brain were there–they just weren’t efficient. She judges this by whether a child keeps getting worse on the tests she gives, as opposed to improving which is normal and whether the time is under a minute. He scored much lower on auditory processing and small motor while normal on the visual. He has improved radically on the therapy tasks for word retreival, although I haven’t yet seen carry over. It is supposed to take about three months. The tasks involves a chart made up by the child with pictures starting with every letter of the alphabet. He has to do what she terms fast naming. Now he has progressed (and is on second round of this) and also does a chart that has rhyming words (for example, picture of apple but his rhyming words are red, bed—the word bed is written on chart but he is to retrieve red from the picture of the apple). He now can do this in less than thirty seconds. The first time he did a task like this it was almost three minutes.

It is an interesting therapy. My son has vestibular problems and one of the things he does to address it is say the alphabet while making turns on a rotational board. At first, he couldn’t hardly move around at all. Now he can make it around five times by letter P most of the time. I put my daughter on it, who has no such issues, and she could just turn around. It is like the abilaity is there but has to be discovered. Similarly, he was to bounce on a ball and clap while saying the alphabet. At first, he skipped l,n,o, and said x like f. Within a week, he was saying the alphabet correctly with no help from me. (He knew the alphabet but it obviously wasn’t automatic enough). Now he is doing, the alphabet and the word hotdog. He says “a, hotdog, b, hotdog ect.”

My son has CAPD. The decoding problems were addressed with Fast Forward. He still has auditory integration problems which is why we choose NN. He had contra lateral reflexes that were absent (cross hemispheric). They actually have come back with NN while the audiologist who had tested him had told me that this was at the brain stem level and would not reappear. Nancy Rowe had told me originally that sometimes they do, and sometimes they don’t—and she couldn’t predict.

We feel like this is a big piece of the puzzle with our son. He doesn’t seem to mind the therapy tasks and that, I think, is a lot to do with the fact that he can SEE the progress. FFW was painfully slow and he has been in vision therapy as well (boring at best).

Beth

FFW was a MAJOR turning point for our daughter and her issues were so severe that she could not attatin a high success number, however, the benefits to her were incredible. Sharon G.

Greetings Angie,

FFW 1&2 made a HUGE difference in my daughter’s life by dramatically improving her ability to process sound. She went from saying “huh?” and “what?” after everything we said to understanding us the first time we say it. We also saw improvements in her ability to play word games, understand jokes, comic timing, and the ability to hear and understand words in vocal music. However, FFW is not a cure for auditory processing problems. My dd still has a poor auditory memory which we are working on with PACE. FFW did not improve my dd’s reading ability either. But just as Sharon G. indicated, FFW was a MAJOR turning point for our dd in which she accomplished more in the 5mos of therapy than she did in the previous 3yrs.

Blessings, momo

Greetings Barb,

I have been training my daughter with PACE and this program has definitely helped her dysnomia (word retrieval disorder).

She also did Interactive Metronome last summer which dramatically improved her timing and rhythm issues, and to a lesser extent, focus and concentration. I plan to have my dd complete a few additional IM sessions in the hopes of positively impacting her focus and concentration more.

Blessings, momo

Thanks to all that posted. I have set up an appointment with the NeuroNet therapist in Chicago. She is also willing to sell me the Listening Program CD’s to do at the same time. I think I’ll wait on Fast Forward until she is through with this and then start her on that. Thanks again for your help. Barb

FFW, IM and PACE. Done them all and while they have helped..they have not been dramatic in anyway. Word retrival was somewhat improved somewhere in the process…but not dramatically. FFW seemed to have the most impact with processing sounds and phonics. If we paid basd on results we’d have spent $500 not $5000 on all this.

I’ve been trying to find more information on NeuroNet. Do they have a website? I’m not finding it.

I’ve been trying to find more information on NeuroNet. Do they have a website? I’m not finding it.

Kim - website is at: http://www.neuroacoustics.com/