speech eval

Amanda,

It would help if you gave the name of the test and the standard scores.

Janis

The Articulation test was the Goldman Fristoe 2 (overall score13 out of 90) and the CASL test she had scored 19 out of 87.
Amanda

Amanda,

I do not have access to those two tests, but speech language tests should have an age equivalent score, a percentile score, and a standard score. The standard score is usually used to determine if the child qualifies for services. The scores you are giving are not the way age equiv, %ile, or std. scores are reported, so I am still not sure how to find out the answer for you. Do you have anything besides those numbers to identify what they are?

Janis

Amanda,

I do not have access to those two tests, but speech language tests should have an age equivalent score, a percentile score, and a standard score. The standard score is usually used to determine if the child qualifies for services. The scores you are giving are not the way age equiv, %ile, or std. scores are reported, so I am still not sure how to find out the answer for you. Do you have anything besides those numbers to identify what they are?

Janis

These look like raw scores to me. Is that all they gave you?

Mary

Is this is all I have

Amanda,

I do not have a very high opinion of someone who sends a parent scores without any explanation. Those numbers are meaningless to anyone other than someone who administers that particular test. But anyone knowledgable about testing can help you interpret standard and percentile scores. Can you call the person who did the speech/language testing and tell them you want the standard score and percentile for every subtest given? You have a right to know and understand this before an IEP is written. How could you possibly know if the IEP goals are adequate when you don’t understand the test results?

Try to find out and maybe we can help you!

Janis

I think the scores you have are percentiles and then standard score…for example antonyms she performed in the 37th percentile and the standard score is 95.
I’m a speech pathologist and I don’t recognize the subtests, but it looks like she scored in the average range on most with the exception of Pragmatic judgement, which may look at social language skills.
We look at qualification for speech and language services as any 2 tests or subtests under the 7th percentile. Do you have the name of the test?

Good for you, Becky! You are right! (I checked my score conversion chart).When she wrote “out of” it was throwing me off. In my state she probably would not even qualify for speech therapy with only one low subtest, apparently. We have to have two low areas (1 1/2 std. deviations below) as evidenced by two different tests.

Janis

I was reading the test scores and i did forget to add the standard and percentile difference. i stated that she may have scored 13 (which was percentile) and the larger number was the standard score.

Articulation test was the Goldman Fristoe 2 (her score 13 percentile/standard score 90) and the CASL test for language (her score 19 percentile/standard score 87)

Amanda,

Hopefully Becky will come back and tell you more about these particular tests, but I can tell you a little about the scores. Most of us are a little more familiar with percentiles. The 50th %ile is average, 100 %ile is the maximum. Standard scores are a bit different, but they are usually used to determine whether the child qualifies for services or not. With standard scores, 100 is average (mean), and every 15 points below is one standard deviation below the mean. Some states require one standard deviation below the mean on a certain number of tests or subtests, and some require 1 1/2 or some other amount. As you can see, neither score of 87 and 90 are even one standard deviation below the mean (which would be 85). So in my state, if these were the only tests given, a child would not qualify.

Still, when you consider percentile scores of 13 and 19 %ile, these are definitely below average, and I, personally, might consider private speech therapy if the school doesn’t provide it.

Janis

Why did your daughter have a speech and language evaluation? What are your concerns? Does she have trouble with pragmatics or associating with her peers? Does she have difficulty learning or exhibit inattentive behaviors? It looks like from the tests that were done that she doesn’t qualify for services, She had a good understanding of how to use words in sentences and how to put them together (Syntax). She knows antonyms or word opposites and is able to comprehend passages that are read to her and has a grasp of age appropriate concepts. The Goldman Fristoe is a test for Articulation and she scored fairly well on that as well. The CASL is the Comprehensive Assessment of Spoken Language and is a relatively new test that is gaining popularity. I haven’t personally used it but other SLP’s I know like it.

This was recommended to me by my child’s teacher… on the first day of school the teacher said she didn’t understand a word she said. Now, this was a few months ago and since then the teacher also mentioned she should be tested for a learning disability. We have done this but things were fine in regard to that. Back to the speech, my daughter talks a bit fast and some of the sounds are pronounced incorrectly I agree. Most people understand most of what she says. She is a shy little girl but has friends, she is a bit akward socially. Nothing significant.