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Is 60% completion for G's and O's acceptable?

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I need someone who is objective to help me sort this out. In the past, my child has had 80% accuracy for completion of her G’s and O’s. On the upcoming IEP the RSP teacher is pushing for 60% accuracy on math and reading goals. When I make g’s and o’s for speech and language I use 80% accuracy to pass them off not 60%. Is 60% accuracy an acceptable passage according to what other educators are doing with their students? It just doesn’t make sense to me. 60% accuracy is just 10% over a coin toss of 50-50 and I don’t feel that is even close to mastery.

Any thoughts from the teachers on this?

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/21/2002 - 4:13 PM

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Especially in math — unless she’s really mastered one group of skills, but doesn’t get any at the higher level. I’d specify mastery of specific topics.

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/22/2002 - 2:34 PM

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Patti, I usually don’t go with 60% either. However, I believe that goals/objectives should be based on present levels of performance and should be reasonably attainable. So, to truly evaluate this situation, I would have much more data.

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/22/2002 - 2:41 PM

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Let me clarify my thinking:

When we have a child who turns in 10% of homework or who is off-task 80% of the time, the annual goal may be to get to even 50%. This is reasonable because, unless there is a medical issue that is taken care of in the interim, it is unrealistic to go from 10%-80% in many instances.

Depending on the child and the extent of the child’s disability, I might actually write a 60% objective under the following circumstances:

1. The child is at a 0% level re. the skill.
2. The skill is being introduced late enough in the year that I don’t believe we have ample time for complete mastery, thus I will continue the goal on the next IEP and then go for 80%. If a child has an IEP that expires in May and I start long division in March, for the first time. I may just shoot for partial mastery (which in this case shows progress).

Again, I cannot see a black and white answer. However, perhaps for political acceptance, I endeavor to write my goals/ojbectives in a manner that will generally permit 70-90% mastery on the goal. So, if I am not confident the goal is attainable at 80%, then I might soften the goal to a point where i think it is attainable.

If the teacher plugs in 60% for all goals, all the time. No way, I don’t plug in 80% for all goals all the time.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/23/2002 - 2:31 AM

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So are you saying if the present level of performance is at 60% mastery which is what the child has achieved now…then the new goal should be at 60% mastery? This kid is on task, organized, does all the assignments never turns in things late. Is totally mainstreamed and pulling B’s and C’s in regular ed curriculum. I feel the new goals are obtainable at even 90% accuracy.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/23/2002 - 4:12 AM

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I don’t think that’s what she meant, Patti. I think she meant the expectations need to be realistic. So if she scored 60% on a Brigance subtest, then her goals (or objectives) should be to increase her accuracy on those same goals to 80% (or more) before going to the next higher skill level. I agree. It’s not appropriate for her to go from current 60% accuracy on third grade reading (for example) to 60% of fourth grade reading. I would want much better mastery of third grade reading before going to fourth.

Janis

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