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We recently attended an IEP for our child. We took the district to Due Process and received monetary compensation. This was the first IEP meeting after we pulled our child out of public school to remediate Our child is back in public school and doing well. We arrived on time but the “team” wasn’t ready. We had to wait for about 20-30 minutes before they let us in the room. I was given several papers which had comments about our child and said performance in classes. I noticed there was a roll of white out on the table and it so happened that one of the forms had a whole sentence covered with white-out by someone on the team. The RSP teacher went to the xerox machine and when I received my copy of the IEP papers the original that she had given me was gone.

Then at the end of the meeting the district heavy informed me that I had to give 24 hours to observe in a classroom and that I had to sign in at the front desk and wear a name tag. I looked at her and said, “I know that, and I did what I was supposed to do.” But something just didn’t sit right with me because a week prior to the IEP meeting I had made an appointment to observe in the classrooms with the receptionist 24 hours in advance. I did my visits at the appointed time and I was pleased with what I saw in the classrooms. I was also asked by one of the teachers to proctor a test for some children and received a thank you note for assisting. Everything seemed fine to me, however, someone in the front office dropped the ball and did not inform the teachers in advance of my visits and the next thing I know the district is on my back

It gets better….They accused me of prepping our child for assessments because of increased performance on them. The next thing I know the RSP teacher is calling me and telling me that she has to retest using a criterion referenced test. Our child had just been tested by another district person on the team a week earlier with the same criterion referenced test. Guess what…The results were different the latest assessment was higher and the earlier one was lower. Our kid is going to make honor roll for the first time in his life and one of the jokers on the IEP team recommended a self-contained classroom! I wanted to scream! I am very suspicious considering their actions and what they have done in the past.

Should we write a letter of understanding about the fact that I made appointments for the observations? What is the law regarding observations of your child in the classroom? This has been such a fiasco, hope you had a good laugh too.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/26/2002 - 12:53 PM

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I don’t know the legal ramifications of visiting a classroom, but my own personal feelings is……if they have nothing to hide, no notice should be necessary. If my boss decideds to observe my work he doesn’t give me 24 hour notice, and in reality….you are there boss. Your taxes pay the salaries. I agree, it’s monkey business, or maybe more of a control issue. Good Luck!

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/26/2002 - 1:49 PM

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I’d be inclined to agree with Kathytoo. Don’t understand the need for 24 hr notification, unless of course there is need to prep for something. I mean really. Considering all that goes on in “reality”, a parent coming in to observe what is going on in school vs. top secret rocket science… who knows.

Bottom line, is thier failure to communicate amongst themselves is no responsibility of yours. If you are for the most part comfortable with what is going on, I’d consider hooking up with someone of responsibility there, get their e mail address or fax number and give your notice in writing. Be sure to request a response in writing as well (even though you will have confirmation via the fax or e mail anyway). I’d probably delve into being a bit sarcastic (with humor) and play around a bit with how I worded my notice (ie; here ye, here ye… making it a proclamation for the whole town), but documented notice, with a date and time to someone specific will certainly curtail the finger pointing in your direction. Furthermore, until the confusion settles down, bring along your copy of the notice sent, the date and time etc… their response if received or not.

As far as the prepping for assessments, I’m a bit confused. Maybe it’s one of those conveluted compliments where thier actually impressed with you doing their job? I don’t get it.

Monkey business. Yeah, probably. Are you paranoid? Naw, not if their following you.

Stay well documented. Maintain your vigilance, as well as a sense of humor.

Best of luck.

Andy

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/26/2002 - 6:30 PM

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Did you have that too Andy? This feeling of always being on your guard and having to defend your actions?

The funny thing about this situation is I work for the district and I worked at this school in the past, (I have seen the shows they have put on) and was one of the “trained” professionals they paraded to parents. They know I have done my own assessments and I happen to know which ones they use, but I specifically did not test the areas they were testing, math and writing. It is truly idiotic when you think about it because my kid has seen various assessments in my office and I have given an occassional list of nonsense and real words once in awhile to see if word attack is making progress, but I did not prep for district assessments. Why would I do that and what would I have to gain? But my kid scored over grade level on calculations and writing and (guess what we have been working on privately the last few years math, writing and reasoning) and what is their first assumption, the parent prepped. I know my kid is capable just inattentive and inconsistent and but was doing his best on that day. By the time they retested my kid with the second Brignace he was sick of being probed and tested and didn’t do as well.

However, I know they have used the same WJ-R every year for re-assessments and I also know my kid was questioned by the RSP and said, “I recognize this test, I have been given this before.” Well if you were given the same form of the same test every year for the past 5 years wouldn’t it look familiar to you too? I got the protocol and written on the front page is written, “Student stated mother gave test a few days ago.” When I saw that I was kind of peeved because I asked my kid about it, My kid said, “No, Mom, I only told the RSP teacher I recognized the test and it is the same test the other RSP teacher gave me last year.” And the other lady, who tested me she gives me the same old test every year, I recognize that one too.” One test was the WJ and the other was the Brigance test of basic skills. But even after they discredited the WJ they still stood by the results of the same identical form and test of basic skills given a week apart, with two different examiners and two different scores.

Their convoluted reasoning and bumbling is beyond my intelligence. Thanks for listening, this has been cathartic as I have been stewing about this all week. I suppose I was upset because our whole family has put so much of ourselves, time and money into our youngest child’s remediation. The growth, improvement in grades, self-confidence and making honor roll is wonderful to see how our efforts are turning into success.

I supposed I am suffering from Post Traumatic Due Process Syndrome and I need to not take what they say so personally. Thanks for listening to my ramblings. God Bless you all!

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/26/2002 - 7:46 PM

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There is no doubt that as long as your child is still in school, and you are going thru the special ed guantlet, I prefer to call it Current Traumatic Stress Disorder (syndrome).

Yes, we had very similar instances and issues. Including the district claiming “he is doing fine in school, the problems must be stemming from the home”. Think about that. We are going to the district begging for help. We are saying he is drowning in the academic arena. We are not taking their standard pat answers, but coming back for more. We are asking for the further testing and possible placement alternatives… and yet, they find no problem at school, it must be from the home???? If we were experiencing the supposed problems, or worse, causing the problems at home…, then why would we be asking to put the spotlight on our son????

We had a program specialist bring our son into a meeting with my wife and she asked him if he had been acting that day, because if he was, then he was quite and actor and should consider a career in that field. He was in the 4th grade, there were severe problems with teachers, and we had already pulled him from school once and did homeschooling for a semester because it had gotten way out of hand. Hmmmm, and the counselor had said (in dph) “we offered him counseling and he said he didn’t want to go”. It was on his IEP, but somehow it was ok to make it subjective to the child’s whims. I could go on and on……………..

Yeah, this bb is quite a great place to get your grounding and see that you aren’t alone.

Andy

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/26/2002 - 11:33 PM

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I think they are just trying to make your life difficult because you took them to due process. And it’s obvious that remediation outside the school worked, which is an embarrassment to them!

By the way, we (I am a special ed. teacher) were told we are NOT allowed to use white-out on any IEP form. If we make an error, we are to draw one line through the error and then rewrite.

Regarding the classroom visits, were you given a school handbook at the beginning of the year? Is there a written policy for that school that says a parent must give 24 hours notice before observing? If that is the standard policy, fine (but unusual). But if they are making up a rule which applies only to you, I’d be sending the superintendent a copy of the letter, too! And yes, even if there IS a policy, I would write a response to that comment saying that you DID give 24 hours notice and that you are not accountable for the inefficiency of the school office personnel. (Or maybe you can think of a nicer way to say that :-)

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/27/2002 - 1:38 AM

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I was given a handbook but I don’t remember reading anything about 24 hours notice (I will have to find it somewhere in my mixed up files :-P). The other school I work at we have parents popping in all the time without notice. I don’t know what the big deal is but I really think you are right, it is because of the due process case and the fact that I am not the typical parent who thinks the district is doing what is in the child’s best interests.

I know too much and having once been on the inside they are now shunning me for standing up for what I believe in. I know why other district employees kept quiet so they could keep their jobs and I was warned that this might happen, I just didn’t believe it would happen to me. I want to make sure that other parents are aware of the stuff some districts will do to parents and if anyone else had experienced these type of shenanigans. Thanks for the information about the white out. I didn’t think they could use white out but I wasn’t sure.

I have been through the ringer with this stuff for about 4 years now and it has been so emotionally draining. Each IEP meeting dredges up the same old feelings, no matter how hard I try to not get upset they have a way of getting to me by starting late, the tension is incredible and going through 2.5 to 3 hours of this in one setting is draining. It is definitely as Andy says current IEP stress syndrome. I almost want to move to another city and start all over again without an IEP just so my kid can be a normal kid and not have to deal with them.

I have learned that because I took the initiative and did it myself my child is on the road to success, they certainly didn’t help. Their measly $7,000 was a drop in the bucket for the amount of money, emotional wear and tear and time we spent in remediation. I never know what they are going to do, and I do my best to stay on top of everything that they are doing. It is going to really hard now with the restrictions they have placed on me.

I am not revealing my name but all of you are my friends. Thanks for helping me work this out by venting and listening.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/27/2002 - 2:58 AM

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I don’t think the white-out issue is a law or anything, but apparently there have been districts sited during audits for whiting out things (as in potentially covering something up?).

I also work in a school system (special ed.). I am in an awkward situation, because I did not believe my system would do what my child needs, so we put her in a charter school (which is like the enemy to the regular public schools…i.e. competition). My child is getting 3 times per week individual speech/language therapy and I don’t know of any children at my school who get that much.

Do you mind me asking what kinds of remediation were successful for your child? Mine is having difficulty with reading and I am deliberating which tools to use.

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/27/2002 - 6:17 PM

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Lots of speech therapy, the Lindamood-Bell program done intensively at a private clinic that included PACE along with family involvement, and a special class at a learning center for one year to help gain confidence and mastery of skills. We also read stories together and discuss them as a family. It is hard to be in your position, it like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. We tried to work with the system but what they offered us was mediocrity and dumbing down. You are fortunate to get 3x a week speech therapy. My child just gets 20 minutes two times a week, with consult with the teachers. In middle school they learn a lot in the classroom plus the SLP works on curriculum based vocabulary and our child’s scores have gone up even with this amount of time.

Follow your heart and do everything within your power to help your child. I know the district’s negligence created the problem and what we did made the difference in getting our kid back on track. You are on the right track, you will find solutions as you seek them. LDOnline is a great place to find help and advice. Good luck!

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/27/2002 - 7:39 PM

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My child has auditory processing deficits. He receives speech therapy three times a week at school but it is in a group (at least five) of kids. We have done a lot privately so we have seen improvements (and yes they are taking credit) but I still wonder if he would benefit from private speech therapy. His speech is still immature. For example, he doesn’t use verbs correctly and substitutes what for that when speaking. “I want to go to the place what has the great plants.” His vocabulary, however, is above grade level which I attribute to lots of reading outloud and a child who has insisted on being read books above grade level from about age 4.

Did you get private speech therapy? How often and for how long? How did you select someone? Our insurance doesn’t pay for any such things so I would want to make sure it was worth it.

Beth

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/27/2002 - 7:40 PM

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1. On observations,I would check your state laws on this.I would also ask to recieve a copy of the district policy or state policy. Personally it reeks of retaliatory efforts. How can you really get a good impression of what is going on in the classroom if the teacher recieves a 24 hour notice of your arrival?

2.Using white out on any legal document is a BIG no-no. I any area of the world,not just special ed.

3. Your kid is doing well,no problems there,but seems to me they are trying to inflame you. You could inflame them back or let it go. You obviously know enough not to allow some goofy IEP goals or such to develop.

4. On the evaluations, they must obtain your consent prior to doing any evaluation. The district is guilty of exactly what they are accusing you of doing. I supose if it doesn’t result in a decrease of services etc. It is just a stupid incident. BUT if it would I sure as heck be requesting an Independent evaluation.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/27/2002 - 8:27 PM

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Beth,

Another thought. I think you could get individual speech therapy at school if you can get an APD “expert” to analyze your child’s records and make recommendations. I don’t see how an APD kid is going to make a lot of progress in a group of five with no individual therapy. We had Dr. Jay Lucker did this for us and he actually recommended S/L 5 times a week. The IEP is written for 3-5 times a week because the SLP only had three times open that Anna would not miss important classroom instruction, but the SLP is working on changing her schedule to give Anna the other two days. I agreed to it because I knew were were very fortuntate to get 3x/30 min/ individual.

If you want more info (such as cost), email me. But let me add that my SLP only knows basic language and artic therapy, so I am having to supply her with information on APD so that she can better meet Anna’s needs.

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/28/2002 - 12:37 AM

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Yes, we did private speech therapy but only recently, last summer infact, and for 2 hours a week 2 days a week, yes, our insurance paid for it because the logic and reasoning and pragmatic skills were low but vocabulary was found to be in the low normal range. Our kid also has CAPD. Sure wish I had done the private speech therapy earlier.

We had two really good SLP’s at the school and they both left after being there a year or two and both of them were recent graduates with upgraded skills. The veteran had LMB training but chose to put our kid on a computer with the LiPS CD rom and the VV CD. She even gave me a bootleg copy to use on my computer. I have it somewhere but it was a waste of time. Our kid did better with dialogue and reading and that is essentially what you are doing with your kid and it is showing.

LMB is speech and language based and in my opinion helped more than anything else. Our child had to manipulate blocks and tiles as words were given and had to make changes and think about what he heard and learned to judge things for himself. PACE helped with the logic and reasoning a little bit and with the visual memory. The clinic did Read Naturally and that helped a ton with the vocabulary.

One thing that would really help kids with APD would be to dictate sentences using new vocabulary words. This would help train them to listen, write down what they hear and then re-read it back to make sure it matches. This was a new goal I implemented because I realized the reason my kid was blowing spelling tests was due to how they heard it. Now I have my kid look at me as I dictate to pick up what the ears are missing and improving as we practice. I think dictation gets overlooked quite a bit. It is a great teaching tool in my opinion.

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/28/2002 - 1:03 AM

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Socks,

I talked with several other parents and they don’t have a 24 hour restriction placed on them. I know it is because of the DP and their fear and I have been told on the QT. One teacher told me, “You just make them nervous, they are on their guard around you.” One woman who was the VP when I worked there was teaching the math class that was a collaborative model, she welcomed me to help in the classroom. She knew I was a saavy parent and that I was also a great teacher, but she had health issues and had to quit teaching so my kid got transferred to another math class which I knew would be a very good class but because of the transition and a month worth of subs due to the previous teachers illness our child was struggling.

I volunteered to help out so that I could reinforce what she was teaching at home and it seemed fine with her from one message I got on my cell phone. Then I got another one from the same teacher an hour later and she was back pedalling, as in “thanks for your generous offer but I don’t need help. My little DP shunning antennae went up and I thought she is nervous, what in the heck?? I told her, “The other teacher let me help in her classroom and it was not a problem,” This teacher kept back peddalling and stated I have a student aide, we work in small groups…and I thought, I have to end this conversation before I lose my cool, I felt red hot. when I got to work and talked with my associate about my anger she said, “You have to talk to her face to face so that she knows you aren’t this “high profile parent” that THEY have painted you to be.” So that is what I did and the math teacher was very kind welcomed me with open arms to visit but I was not allowed to help. It still rankles but I’m over it as some of the kids in my class say.

They are just doing everything they can to irritate me and I need to learn to take the high road. But I wonder if other parents face this opposition when they take a district to DP? I was nice, I settled in mediation, I could have taken it much farther but I wanted my job too. It just doesn’t seem fair when as an educator you look out for the well being of your charges and other incompetent teachers are in it for tenure and could care less about the kids.

But the minute I stepped out of rank and file and called someone on their imcompetency they ganged up on me like a pack of coyotes. I can’t say someone didn’t warn me but I wouldn’t have believed it if it hadn’t happened to me. I think I am going to have to work for a different district just so I can get away from all the negativity they shove at me.

I am going to take the high road and probably write a book about my experiences, kind of like Erin Brockovich… I do know is our kid’s success is because of what WE did as a family home team without the help of the district and we will continue to be on the family home team for as long as it takes to insure a bright future for our children.

Thanks for listening!

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/28/2002 - 1:37 AM

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Well,I totally understand your position in one way,then in another I do not. I suppose you could say I was one of those “high profile” parents,due to several state complaints. I wound up looking for another job,not because I was a teacher in the same school system,but a nurse with a director who was getting tired of all the phone calls,faxes,and meetings I had to leave work for. It was my decision to leave,needed a less stressful job anyway.

You might decide to leave the district for another,I know the negativity you speak of,BUT. They can not place a demand on you such as a 24 hour notice,without it being a district wide policy. This is extremely discriminatory and they are retaliating against you for your attempts at advocating for your child which is ILLEGAL. Just thought I would go ahead and say it.

If your child did so well at home and is doing good now in the public placement,this is GREAT,but rest assured,and please don’t take this the wrong way,somewhere down the road you will wind up having to push back eventually. For now,save your energy,and enjoy your kid:-)

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/28/2002 - 5:37 PM

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Janis,

I would have no problem paying an expert to document if I thought it would help. Let me tell you what I know and see what you think, as an insider.

Last year we hired a slt who was trained in LMB techniques to act as an advocate. She is too far away for tutoring but we had intitally had traveled to her to do some testing. She got us the three times a week speech and language therapy but we were told “no way” as to her request for individual time. We were told that the school has 1500 kids and one therapist and it is simply an impossibility.

We ended up with a great IEP which was designed to be implemented with LMB (by the slt). The district though said they were going to implement it with the program my son had not learned to read using. (Stevenson).

Also, I have been told repeatedly that the district does not recognize CAPD as a legitimate classification. My son is classified as having a specific language disability.

What do you think?

Beth

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/28/2002 - 5:41 PM

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Our insurance explicitly excludes speech therapy so there is no way we can get coverage for it. Wish I had your insurance!!!

How old is your child? How long did you do the private therapy (summer was my impression)? Why do you wish you wish you had done it earlier?

I was interested in your comments about dictation but somewhat confused. Do you mean that you have your child use the word in a sentence after you give the word?

Beth

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/28/2002 - 9:57 PM

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“but we were told “no way” as to her request for individual time. We were told that the school has 1500 kids and one therapist and it is simply an impossibility.”

Beth, you didn’t by any chance audio-tape that meeting, did you? That is an extremely illegal statement. Services are NEVER supposed to be determined by availability. The child’s needs dictate the level of service and then the school district is responsible for acquiring the necessary staff. Or, if they know they can’t provide it (and it is a reasonable request), they can pay the cost of private therapy.

“Also, I have been told repeatedly that the district does not recognize CAPD as a legitimate classification.”

I think that is true almost everywhere. If a condition causes no delay, then it is really irrelevant. But APD does causes language and reading difficulties in some children. So I think it’s okay to use those labels but at the same time address auditory related areas within the goals.

Well, if you’ve already tried an advocate, I’m not sure what else you can do other than hire a lawyer. I guess my question would be, would it be worth it even if you got the service time ( as in does the SLP know what she is doing?)?

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/28/2002 - 11:46 PM

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We did LMB at a clinic which uses LMB and PACE techiques but our child had school speech therapy from kindergarten and is still getting it. We had an HMO and they approved the therapy, and when we changed to a PPO they also included the therapy. I didn’t realize that I could do stuff privately until the pediatrician recommended it, as it was his idea and our child is in his early teens.

Early intervention with children helps them develop language skills that they need to be successful in talking, reading, writing and communicating with people. I didn’t realize what the district did wasn’t enough until our kid struggled so much with language usage and that is why I have regrets.

Dictation to me really helps a kid with listening, processing and writing what they hear down on paper. They can also strengthen their visual skills by comparing the what they heard with what they wrote and also to help them learn self-editing skills. I think it helps a teacher see how they are hearing sounds and what connections they are making in their brain to what they hear to the letters that they use. Seeing the words in order on paper also helps them with grammar.

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/29/2002 - 12:49 AM

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Beth, you didn’t by any chance audio-tape that meeting, did you? That is an extremely illegal statement.
Services are NEVER supposed to be determined by availability. The child’s needs dictate the level of service
and then the school district is responsible for acquiring the necessary staff. Or, if they know they can’t
provide it (and it is a reasonable request), they can pay the cost of private therapy.

Can you tell me where to find this in the IDEA? I have been told on several occassions, that my son can’t receive indiviual help with his reading problem, due to lack of staff. I have a meeting coming up and would love to be able to quote the rules pertaining to this issue to them.
Thank in advance!

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/29/2002 - 1:41 PM

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Janis,

I actually think we did tape record the meeting, for what it is worth. I think the speech and language therapist is pretty good actually. The private slt who we hired as an advocate thought so too (and she had the exact opinion that I had of the then resource teacher).

Well, I could put it all in writing and see what happens–which reminds me I need to check on the sound field system that they promised me after Christmas. Haven’t heard anything—can’t think that is good!!!

We debated legal action last year and finally decided that the stress wasn’t worth it. We decided to spend our resources directly on our son. It is a decision I don’t regret, especially since we got lucky with the prinicpal hiring someone who actually knows something this year (and maybe all the meetings with me last year contributed to that!!)

Beth

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/29/2002 - 2:30 PM

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Beth,

I would agree about the stress of legal action. I think it is more beneficial in the long run to do things in a more positive manner if at all possible. And you are one of the few people in the US, it seems, that actually has LB trained resource teacher! So you have seen some positive changes!

I still would question how individualized your son’s S/L therapy is with a group of 5 kids, though. You might want to run that by the SLP’s on the CAPD list (which I mentioned to you in an email). Maybe you can tell them what she’s doing and see if they think it sounds acceptable or not.

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/29/2002 - 11:36 PM

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Kathy,

You asked where in IDEA does it say that services are determined by the child’s needs and not by the availability of staff. Hmmm… I am at home now and don’t really have access to much. Although, I think if you go to the Wright’s law site it might have some help. Honestly, schools do tell parents all the time that they have to limit services due to lack of staff, but that is totally wrong. They can say your child does not NEED that level of service and then you’d have to get experts who say otherwise, but it is just a known fact that the child’s needs determine the service. Just quote me if you have to! LOL!

However, it is very rare to get individual reading help in the public schools. As Beth and some other parents have determined, it is often better to just put your time, money, and energy into acquiring tutoring by someone in a multisensory language based reading program outside of school rather than trying to fight the system (and maybe still end up with a resource teacher who uses ineffective methods).

Now that I have said all that, I will add that if the teacher is really good and has effective materials, it is possible to work with more than one child at a time if they are well matched as to need areas. So it isn’t always bad to be in a small group (however groups of 8 or 10 are ridiculous when it comes to reading or language, as far as I’m concerned).

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/30/2002 - 3:09 AM

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I know that I would be better to find my own help, but we live in a rural area where there is no help available. Have you ever heard of Applachian Ohio? I called the local colleges to see if they might tutors available, one does for 25.00 an hour,plus travel time, which is 2 hours one way. I just can’t afford 125.00 for an hour of instruction. They did recommend the Wilson Reading System, which I convinced the school to purchase. They used this system with my son for 9 weeks and his reading improved two grades levels. But now they say it is to time consuming and requires one on one help and they don’t have the staff available.
GRRRRRRRR!!!!!! It’s even more frustrating to know they have something that could help and choose not to use it. I tried having it written in his IEP that they would use this system 1/2 hour a day, and they refused.
I wrote the super. a letter a couple weeks ago, addressing all my concerns and even hinted that if it wasn’t resolved on a local level, I may request a due process hearing. Although, to be honest, I wouldn’t even know how to start such a process, so I guess you could say I’m blowing smoke and hope they fall for it. LOL
I appreciate everyone’s suggestions and advice.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/30/2002 - 3:19 AM

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Good luck, Kathy! I think you’re on the right track! I think threatening them with due process is a good idea. Some times that is all it takes. I don’t think you’re asking for too much. It sounds like Wilson was good for your son and her just needs to complete it.

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/31/2002 - 4:08 AM

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Ok, I am a speech therapist. And I do know how to work with dyslexia. Not many of us do. If you are going to get private therapy it is worth your while to call around and ask if the therapist has worked with students with: dyslexia, CAPD or learning disabilities. You would beneifit most from a place where your child could also be seen by an occupational therapist who works with issues such as fine motor control and handwriting even if that is not a specific issue. Usually students with dyslexia have underlying sensory processing issues, otherwise lnown as sensory integration dysfunction. Type it into a search engine and some good stuff will come up. You want a multi-sensory appraoch to treatment, traditional sit down stuff will help but it is better to combine that woth other approaches. Believe it or not, varying types of movement help in this area, including thngs like clapping along with words, tapping out patterns and the like. For CAPD you want a combination of classroom accomodations like you mentioned and therapy techniques including listening skills and note taking technuques. You want organizational strategies to be part of your intervention acorss subject areas as this is often an issue.

As to the 5 students at once, that is bad. However, getting 3 times a week is incredible and rarely offerred. Typically kids are seen 2 times per week for half an hour. Is that enough, maybe, maybe not. Please remember to never blame the teachers or SLPs. When I was in a school dsitrict there was so much pressureput on me about this issues I left for private practice. They lost a good SLP and so do many other districts. You want to indicate the need for more thrapists, this is key to getting the real issue taken care of without someone else taking the fall for a problem that should not exist. Many districts don’t allow CAPD as a classification. I am contracted in the schools and have been told that myself. It hink it is ridicukous AND illegal and I recommend arguing that one. SOUnd field amplification in terms of an FM system REALLY helps. Are you in Ohio by any chance :-)?

Any other questions please feel free to email me: [email protected]

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