memory probs-which programs most address this?

With a listening score that low, you really want to either rule out or identify an auditory processing problem. You can find out more about CAPD, including a search engine to locate audiologists who specialize in CAPD assessments, at http://pages.cthome.net/cbristol/

Audiblox (http://www.audiblox2000.com) works on developing auditory short-term memory, among other things. It is an inexpensive, home-based program worth doing. PACE (http://www.learninginfo.com) also works on short-term memory, but it is so expensive you would probably want to get a CAPD eval done first, along with any sound therapies that might be recommended.

Have you tried “Reading Reflex”? This can do a lot for the phonological delays. The book is $16 at most bookstores. There are intensives available for this methodology also (see http://www.readamerica.net).

Mary

I can suspect that he has trouble learning rhymes and songs because of his weak auditory memory…He has difficulty following directions, what is his vocabulary like?
I would suggest a thorough CAPD battery too to rule out CAPD. But many times CAPD can mimic ADD and sometimes they can overlap. So you may want to try a CPT Continuous Performance Test done auditorially to see how he does with his attention span.

Hi Mary,

Do you have Audiblox in addition to PACE? My dd made great gains with PACE in all areas except the memory ones. Her real-life memory did improve somewhat but not as much as we hoped. Anyway, I’m curious whether Audiblox does a better job of addressing poor memory issues than PACE.

By-the-way, we are finally seeing big improvements in memory with NN.

Blessings, momo

Just as an aside to this discussion, I believe Beth told me that she thought PACE or BrainSkills (home version of PACE) has a much stronger auditory compnent than Audiblox, by the way.

By all means get Earobics ($59 I think). It will strengthen those auditory skills in general and also auditory memory. It comes in home versions for younger and older children and adults, so look at the recommended ages.

http://www.earobics.com/parents/p_products.stm

Also, Brainbuilder works on auditory memory skills ($49, I haven’t bought it yet but plan to).

http://www.advancedbrain.com/bb_intro.html

Here is a great article regarding working memory, language, and reading:

http://www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=fa/memory-language

Janis

and Audiblox would not do anything more for memory than PACE does.

My bet is your dd’s memory issues were more neurologically-based than skills-based, which is why NeuroNet is helping them. Theoretically, once you are finished with NN, additional cognitive training would help develop and refine memory skills — big emphasis on theoretically!

Mary

which Audiblox lacks, is pretty much along the lines of Lindamood Bell LiPS and Phono-Graphix training. That is, the PACE exercises work on developing phonemic awareness and phonological processing skills. Audiblox does not provide this, but can be supplemented with “Reading Reflex” or LMB.

Momo’s daughter has already been through PACE and MTC as well as Reading Reflex, so she is well beyond Earobics and BrainBuilder. I think those programs work best with pre-readers, or children who are still on a 1st or 2nd grade reading level.

Mary

Mary,

Hi! All my recommendations on that post were for marycas, not momo. I just put it there to make my beginning comment about PACE/Audiblox. Sorry if that was unclear. I did not think momo was asking for programs.

Earobics comes in two versions for children depending on age plus an adolescent/adult version. So I would think one of these would work for marycas’s child.

The BrainBuiler page says, “Brain Builder is for adults and children as young as four (4) with guidance.” I am planning to send it to my son in college who is ADD and complains of poor ability to memorize. Then my APD child can try it!

Janis

Where can i get more info about neuronet? My son was screened for PACE and tested either at grade level or above on all the catagories. He does have possible inattentive ADD issues and short term memory issues. would NN help him?

.Hi Robin,

You can access the NN website at neuroacoustics.com.

My dd has both inattentive-ADD and short-term/working memory issues and it seems to be helping her.

Blessings, momo