2nd grade girl, age8, also recently diagnosed with ADHD-inattentive type.
Do these scores mean she has below average intelligence?? The school wants to delay the ID of learning disability until they have more info, ie. neurological and social assessments. I’m thinking they don’t want to tell me that my child just isn’t very bright. This is very difficult to take.
Differential Ability Scales
Cluster Scores
Standard Score Percentile DASclassification
Verbal 93 32 Average
nonverbal reasoning 91 27 Average
Spatial 73 4 Low
Genl Conceptual ability 83 13 Below Average
Core Subtests
T-Score
classification Classification
Word definitions 54 average
similarities 39 below avg
matrices 50 avg
Sequential & quantitative
reasoning 40 below avg
recall of designs 37 below avg
pattern construction 31 low
Mean Core T Score 42 below avg
Diagnostic Subtests
Recall of digits 60 above avg
recall of objects:
immediate 53 avg
delayed 52 avg
Speed of information
processing 47 avg
WIAT-II
Reading
standard score percentile classification
Word Reading 106 66 avg
Reading comprehension 105 63 avg
Pseudoword decoding 117 87 high avg
Composite 109 73 avg
Mathematics
Numerical operations 91 27 avg
math reasoning 83 13 low avg
composite 85 16 low avg
Written Language
Spelling 103 58 avg
written expression 86 18 low avg
composite 93 32 avg
OWLS-written 104
Should I go on with the PPVT and the TOLD?????
Re: Please Help Me Understand These Scores
Speech and language results:
PPTV:standard score of 92 percentile 30
TOLD
SUBTEST
Picture vocabulary 3
oral vocabulary 9
Grammatical understanding 4
sentence imitation 12
grammatical completion 7
word discrimination 6
word articulation 9
COMPOSITE
Spoken language 79
listening 61
speaking 96
semantics 76
syntax 85
Speech pathology has been recommended to improve auditory processing skills
Hey Pattim- you should look at these...
You would get this better than I would. I don’t know that much about the TOLD. Gina- Patti is an SLP in training who has lots of experience with Speech and language testing.
From what I can see- the PPVT- which is a measure of naming vocabulary- is average. I am confused therefore about why the same skill on the TOLD is soooo much lower.
I would think that some of his remediation in Speech should head toward improving his semantic- meaning related- understanding of language. This gets into multiple meaning words, synonyms and antonyms- and how words change meaning based on their position in a sentence. That sort of stuff. That rings my bell a little more than auditory processing- but then again this isn’t my layer of expertise.
Robin
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Robin,
Just want to thank you for your help. This is soooooo confusing. Found out from the school today that she is on a 45 day diagnostic placement. Resource room for math, and OT and SLT. I think the school system doesn’t fully understand the results of her test!
Thanks again,
Gina
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You are more than welcome- it is a confusing set of results so I wouldn’t be too hard on them… it sounds like they are doing the right thing trying to sort it out. BTW- sorry I typoed her to a him in the earlier message…sheesh.
Robin
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I agree that the difference between the PPVT scores and the picture vocab subtest on the TOLD don’t make a lot of sense. I have found in general that the PPVT scores “lower” than the TOLD so it makes it even more confusing. In anycase I don’t think that vocabulary tests should be used to diagnose processing problems, they are good to use just for information. In this case I would use the higher score as the more accurate one, especially since the expressive vocabulary score was closer to the PPVT.
Becky, SLP
Well you can but here is what I think-
She is a reasonably bright little one who is having a hard time with visual processing- seeing part to whole stuff and visual memory. Verbal skills seem to be pretty average, reasoning skills are adequate and her memory capacity looks okay. So does processing speed. Her reading is very good, written language is okay though she has some trouble with sentences- math is alright as well though it looks like functional math and problem solving are a little on the weak side. I don’t know the specifics of what is on the WIAT in these areas so I am supposing a bit here…
I think you have a processing glitch with the spatial stuff- and a split that might mean that her overall score isn’t as good a picture of her capacity as a learner as the cluster scores are. I don’t know that you have enough discrepency in performance to document a learning disability however. What were her speech and language results like?
Robin