My daughter, 11 yrs old, scores on the IOWA testing were very low (20-30). Her report card was all A’s and B’s. Her intelligence is above average range, she is LD. Should I be concerned with the scores?
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Thank you Robin for your thoughts. IOWA scores have been low, in each year they are getting lower.
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Then I might ask for some more accurate sense of what her achievement levels are- you have some longitudinal evidence to work with. Many schools will do the Keymath and the Woodcock Reading Mastery test as a general education referral. I would make the request anyway. You can always do the written request for a full sped evaluation too- but it would be worth it to me to know if her grades ad her skill levels are consistant and the WRMT and Keymath are pretty accurate and fairly nonintrusive.
Robin
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My daughter has had extensive testing, both by the school (they showed nothing wrong), independantly (I disagreed with their evaluation) and privately ( a neuropsychologist to putit all together). To make the story short, she was just diagnosed as dyslexic. Her greatest areas of difficulty in testing are phonological proccessing ( I am told she has a severe deficit in this area), RAN (rapid naming) and audiotory memory issues. The word retrieval was not documented on testing, but evidient in conversation. (Could not recall her last name at one of the evaluation sessions with the neuropsychologist for example) She also has extreme difficulties with symbols (letters, numbers), rote memorization. She will begin with an Orton based program in school in the fall. She will be entering the first grade. She also receives S/L therapy for articulation as well as the word retrival and phoneme awareness.
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Glad to see that someone else named Jackie has nothing better to do but to respond to this BB thread as if you were me writing. Robin G. thanks for responding but the previous post from a Jackie is someone else who I guess enjoys making up responses to postings.
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Pardon me, Jackie, if I caused you any annoyance. I meant to respond, I guess to a different Robin in another tread and made an error. That is why this response makes no sense here. We are all human and make mistakes, and I don’t come on this site to make up responses but to get some usaully good insight into helping my child. I am not full of XYZ. Two Jackies and two Robins conversing. Call off the dogs.
I WAS a
bit confused- but you know- it is summer and all the cylinders don’t fire quite the same way:)
Robin
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NOt to say that you should just ignore them… but that’s pretty typical for kids with LD issues, even for students who are making good progress. As the kids get older, the things that make the test appropriate for higher grades are more affected by LDs, so compared to the “whole group” of kids they seem to lose ground, whether they are or not.
Individually administered tests tend to give a much better picture. If *those* percentile scores are going down, it’s worth looking at the reasons.
20-30% is sort of upper low avg range.
All other things being equal-you probably should not worry much. It depends on a lot of things really- but the conventional wisdom is that group achievement/IQ tests are far less accurate for individual students than they are for assessing group trends. The exception to this is if you have a history of low scores- then I might wonder a bit- especially if she seemed to be struggling with schoolwork. If not- then I might look at other possibilities- not feeing well that day, fighting with friends- any of the myriad things which can impact a kiddoes attitude and focus.
Robin