The new district has so far been awesome in communicating with me and being open to whatever I feel I need for my son.
Hes in a balanced calendar school and classes began yesterday :(. The school psychologist sent me a cheery note saying ‘lets get that triennial done-Ive got lots of time now at beginning of year. What do you want me to do?”
He had a wisc done 3 yrs ago-i received total scores but, even upon request, could not get the subtests you folks all speak about-I know that would help me better pinpoint his struggles. The sp ed teachers said even they dont receive them. ?????
So I obviously would like that redone and maybe they could convince old school to anty up the old for comparison.
What would be good for IQ? Is there a non-verbal test that would be informative? Is verbal IQ off the wisc truly indicative of IQ in a kid with verbal issues?
I wonder because he had a DAS in preschool that had his nonverbal in the 130s and his older brothers both test gifted. He doesnt seem gifted to me, to be honest, but he is puzzling-just doesnt fit any diagnosis
Is there like a ‘wonder test’ out there. One that-oh, wow, every parent should have this done because it gives us so much information!!!!!!!
Quick review-undetected hearing loss till almost age 4-EI with speech and social concerns from 22 mos-speech continues to be a big problem at age 10; capd testing showed low scores in one test(1% in ‘listening test)-low normal in another-testers felt it was auditory memory, not CAPD. ADD diagnosis from psychologist-who also mentionned aspergers(dont think so). Reads by sight-very very quickly with low comprehension. Reading level year to year and half behind-unable to pass state standardized reading tests.
Word retrieval? Is there a test re: this skill.
Re: triennial testing???
I agree that you need to see the full results? Is it possible that the new psychologist could get them?? I am not sure why they wouldn’t give them to you but I think in some places that is their standard policy. When my son had his WPPSI done, the original report didn’t have subtest scores until I asked for them.
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Re: triennial testing???
Family Educational Rights and Privacy ACT is the law you need to look up.
This law states the school MUST give to you ALL educational records. If you are talking about scores on an evaluation this would be included as part of his educational record. Test protocols,which are the test answer sheets, are a little harder to get. But simply put,if you request anything that is your childs information,you have the right to a copy of it,because you are the Parent.
Actually IDEA,504,and FERPA,state this..
Write a letter requesting that they either give you the scores,or give you a reason why they refuse. If they refuse,they are violating the law.You have the right to ALL educational information maintained on your child.
This doesn’t include notes made by a teacher,unless they place it in his file. Or test answer sheets because they are copy right protected. But test scores? Definitely included.
Re: triennial testing???
The WISC is a good one because it covers verbal and nonverbal. If you’re looking for specific nonverbal strengths, there are a couple of tests that focus on that - but frankly, the nonverbal skills have less academic importance. You can get a pretty good idea of strengths to work with from the WISC… with those subtests of course!! (If the school’s got good testers, they should be aware of a good non-verbal test… if they’re not familiar with it, frankly, it would be a lot less beneficial because they won’t have the experience to administer or interpret it, so you’d do better to get that done by someone else.)
It’s the tester that makes parents say “oh wow”… hope you get one :)
Re: triennial testing???
The Kaufman Assessment Battery for Children will give a cognitive and achievement profile but few school systems use it; you are better off using what the school is most familiar with…many schools now are using the Woodcock Johnson III cognitive and achievement batteries. Private psychologists sometimes use the old Stanford-Binet to test gifted children because the ceilings are higher than the WISC. Preschool testing is not very accurate and certainly not cast in stone.
I think (for whatever its worth) that you need to have those sub test scores. You need to have that breakdown that gives you an idea of strengths vs. weaknesses.
Then when you get the retesting with the WIAT you will compare the first set (three years ago) vs. the current ones. Then you can see if there is progression or regression. You will then have an idea if the schools program is working or not.
I think there are many different kinds of tests that can be done depending on what you tell the examiner the problems are that you see. But pretty much they are standard.
We had the WRAML test done this year that tests memory and learning style strength. It answered a lot of questions for us. Info we didn’t have the first time around. Word retrieval “might” (I don’t know for sure) within this test.
BUT YOU DEFINITELY NEED THOSE PREVIOUS SUBTEST SCORES!