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where do I begin (scores)

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IQ verbal-89 perceputal organization- 104 = 84( low average)

“A comparison between the childs expected achievement score and the results of the WJ-R suggests that he is significantly underachieving in written language and moderately in math

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 4:50 PM

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I read your other post, are these the only scores that you have. You should have verbal IQ, performance IQ, and full scale IQ. Also in the IQ report you should have subtests, with numbers ranging from 0 to 16ish.

Also, what are the rest of the achievement tests scores?

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 6:28 PM

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VERBAL TESTS SCALED SCORES
Information 10
Simularities 9
Arithmetic 7
Vocabulary 7
Comprehension 7

PREFORMANCE TESTS
Picture Completion 13
Coding 5
Picture Arrangement 10
Block Design 10
Object Assembly

VERBAL IQ 91
PERFORMANC IQ 104
FULL SCALE IQ 84 WECHSLER

INDEX SCORES:
VERBAL COMPREHENSION 91
PERCEPTUAL ORGANIZATION 104
FREEDOM FROM DISTRACTIBLITY 84

WJ-R(WOODCOCK-JOHNSON)
GRADE EQV %TILE
Letter-word Identification 5.8 17
Passage Comprehension 9.2 46
Calculation 5.9 8
Applied Problems 6.3 23
Dictation 2.9 0.5
Writing Samples 5.6 22
Broad Reading 6.7 24
Broad Math 5.9 14
Broad Written Language 3.7 3
Skills 4.8 8
Word Attack 9.8 48
Basic Reading Skills 6.0 26

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 7:02 PM

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Look up the IQ scores again from the 5th grade and the 8th grade testing; also it may depend upon what state are you in as to whether he qualified as LD. Was he in 8th grade when the achievement testing was done? FYI, “average” IQ is 90-110, and the average range of achievement is the 25-75th percentile.

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 7:49 PM

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The Full-Scale IQ does not look right if the other two are correct I would expect a FIQ of about 96.

He has a lot of scores below 25%. It would seem that he should have qualified though that depends on the states guidelines. Qualifying does not always mean remediation especially in high school.

Helen

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 9:40 PM

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he was in 9th grade when second testing done and was 15 yrs old-I am in the state of Maine. In 5th grade his IQ verbal-94 Preformance-99 Full Scale-96
his Aptitude/Achievement showed a signifiant decrepency in Broad Written Language (25 pt discrepancy between his expected achievement standard score of 98 and his actual stand score of 73).

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 9:43 PM

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he had same discrepencies in 5th grade also but I am really confused at what point do they need to step up to the plate and give him help. Or what I am looking for at what point do I say they are failing to educate my child.

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 10:15 PM

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Go to the the following site that lists the Parent Training and Information Centers in USA and find the one nearest one and call them for advice. The PTI’s get money from the FED’s to train and give information to parents.

http://www.taalliance.org/PTIs.htm

Helen

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 10:47 PM

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Thank You I will do that. I appreciate all the help everyone is taking the time to give me. This is the first time it seems anyone has listened and I am grateful.

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/28/2003 - 11:01 PM

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First, the FS is not possible. The FS cannot be lower than both of the VIQ and PIQ scores.

Second, please post the standard scores (SS) for the achievement testing.

Finally, please look at the third achievement score from the last. Something is missing because there is no cluster or subtest named “Skills”.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/29/2003 - 1:09 PM

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I think the FS IQ score from 9th grade is typed incorrectly; let’s assume that it’s the same as 5th grade…average range(90-110); it’s hard to believe he didn’t qualify for help at least in math with scores in the 5-6th grade range(all below the 25th percentile) while in 9th grade. Now he’s a 10th grader? Does he receive any special help at all? Is he in an academic high school program? Did he take the PSAT’s this year and are you looking at college as a goal? Certainly I’d start with his guidance counselor and psychologist to explain the past testing and what he’ll need if he’s college bound.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/29/2003 - 7:16 PM

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He was declined for help both testings that were done. Even though the evaluator recommended several different options. I was told do to his IQ this means he is smart enough to do the work and is just not applying himself. I did not know of the rights I have and how to go about questioning their decisions. I am starting to educate myself more because my son is the most important person in my life at this time and if I don’t listen to him he won’t have any chance. Yes he does want to go to college. I have spoke to his guidence councelor but had to fight just this Monday to have classes for him this half of the year. As it was said to me “I don’t know what classes to give him because he still won’t be able to pass them so why are you bothering.” He has not taken the PSAT’s this year because he was in a program of learning at your own pace in another building (still academic) but he was not part of the test ths year. Yes I did make a typing error his FS-92 for 9th grade and he is now suppose to be in 10th grade but is repeating classes

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/30/2003 - 12:09 AM

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It seems like the school system has really failed your son miserably. They want to blame the child.

I would second the recommendation of the PTI center in your state, or call a private advocate for some assistance.

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/30/2003 - 1:36 AM

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Patty,

The PTI’s are meeting in Washington DC this week so do not be surprised if they do not get back to you this week,

Helen

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