What is the school’s definition of regression? My child had a score in math reasoning of 2.5 GE 89 SS last year and this year 3.1 GE 74SS. Is it only regression if the GE goes from 2.5 to 2.4 or does the standard score showing 89 to 74 fit the description? Thanks-
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actually according to caselaw,which is what they would use in court to determine regression,the IEP goals are going to be important. Was his goal to progress a full school year in Math?
Now with that being said,if what you are looking for to show regression in a graph form I would certainly use the SS to give a visual of your point.
He is a year older,therefore comparing him to the same age peers he most definitely lost ground and the gap is widening. In other words,what they are doing is NOT working.
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Just got a crash course in that bar graphing and bell curve drawing course at a Pete Wright seminar. Boy, could this be a great way to graph your child’s progress (or lack thereof). I’m with Socks, if it looks like regression, it probably is. Of course, some schools will try to use a different kind of test to show improvement.
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As Sock said it is regression IF THE GOAL WAS A ONE YEAR PROGRESS- one year growth is keeping the SS the same- meaning progressing as fast as the peers and keeping the same rank in the group.
It is however hard to agrue this with school- they would use the GE and agrue that the progress was made, so you should emphasize that the progress was made, but it was not a grade equivalent and she/he is losing ground when compared with peers, i.e. the gap is widening.
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As dumb as this sounds, measurable goals like this have never been part of either of my childrens’ IEP plan. I’m learning as much as I can so the next round goes better…
Thanks for pointing out it needs to be in the IEP! I assumed it was a given, but of course not. The schools *could* argue that was never the point!
Barb
(Who suddenly feels kinda stupid for overlooking this obvious point before!)
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The annual goal for math was: child will meet the standard of the State Essential Learnings for Math in 3rd grade by increasing her skills in numbersense, computation, and measurement.If she tested 3.1 in reasoning and 3.0 in mumerical operations just the beginning of third grade is that saying they met it or should it be 3.5 or higher to say she met the qualifications.As I read my new proposed IEP the annual goal for numerical operations is to go to 3.5. And that’s it!!!! Thanks for all your input this is going to be a bumpy ride.
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where are your ss scores coming from? And when? Begining or end of the school year?
Okay do you have a copy of the state standards for third grade? If not get one.
Find out what they expect from a same age peer. There is where you will find your answer. The federal law states,the student should have an IEP goal that allows them to progress as much as possible through the general ed curriculum,does this goal? Is this kid a reg ed diploma tract? I certainly think she should be.
In other words if the state standard states she should progress a year in Math,and she didn’t,then she did not meet her goal. They can NOT have a goal that is lower then the state standard right out of the gate? Not if they expect this child to graduate with a re ed diploma,and meet the state standards.
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The test was at the same time of year May-June but the previous test was WWJ and current one is WIAT. I have a reading tutor that is fighting for me on the reading ,the goal is low on that also.My reading tutor knows of a good math tutor so I am hoping to get a much better IEP than the school is suggesting.I know my child can do better since I got my reading tutor she is reading,writing and spelling much better and has progressed but math just isn’t. She does well on homework word problems reads and figures them out. She sometimes forgets to borrow which is why they said she scored low on the test..
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Stupid? Not in my vocabulary friend:-) Niave,trusting,kind hearted,possibly.
A few rules of advocating to always remember:
1. If it isn’t in writing it didn’t happen.
2. No response IS a response.
3. If it isn’t in the IEP they DON”T have to do it.
4. Special ed doesn’t necessarily mean remediation.
5. If the parent doesn’t do it,the school won’t remind them that it is their right!
( this is like the old saying if a tree falls in the forest) If a parent doesn’t know what their rights are,then did the school really violate anything?hmmmm
only if they figure it out within 120 days.!
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Stupid? Not in my vocabulary friend:-) Niave,trusting,kind hearted,possibly.
A few rules of advocating to always remember:
1. If it isn’t in writing it didn’t happen.
2. No response IS a response.
3. If it isn’t in the IEP they DON”T have to do it.
4. Special ed doesn’t necessarily mean remediation.
5. If the parent doesn’t do it,the school won’t remind them that it is their right!
( this is like the old saying if a tree falls in the forest) If a parent doesn’t know what their rights are,then did the school really violate anything?hmmmm
only if they figure it out within 120 days.!
measurable goals
Do not feel bad- you are not alone I am positive….
We had such goal for the first time in an IEP that was developed in a private school for LD.
Previously we never had a goal like that- it took us four years to realize that they should be there, so you are not alone… Now, we even challenge the school to specifically say that the progress will be at least one grade level in all specific areas: for example for reading, one year growth in decoding, comprehension and fluency.
I had asked the school- in writing- to measure the yearly progress with the same tool, i.e. the same test given every year and THE SAME SUBSETS OF THE TEST- we fianally had it done by independent evaluator because this way we could really see whether there was a trend over the four years period.
I believe it is the standard score.