My child has difficulty in music class because he not only has to make up a dance but sing a song in acapelo(sp). He has dyslexia and we think CAP. Lately, he is missing information in class and not understanding assignments when they are given orally. Is there a connection between being able to differentiate sounds in music and CAP?
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All APDs are different. My son has severe APD in some areas - but his pitch and memory for tunes is almost perfect! It’s the words in the songs that are the problem for him. :)
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http://home.earthlink.net/~mcoleman/cpdadd.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ADHD_Bulletin_Board/
Re: CAP & Music Class
The answer varies with the individual child or adult.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mcoleman/cpdadd.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ADHD_Bulletin_Board/
http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical/ears/central_auditory.html
Re: CAP & Music Class
Author: Lil
Date: 10-14-02 21:40
All APDs are different. My son has severe APD in some areas - but his pitch and memory for tunes is almost perfect! It’s the words in the songs that are the problem for him. :)
Lil - Agree 100%.
How do you tell the child they can't sing without hurting fe
Our first “clue” (wish I had picked up on it) was in preschool choir and my daugher was so far behind that it was almost like she was singing a round. When she does the ear test at the pediatrician, she hears all pitches, but LONG after they are given.
She can’t sing on tune, or match a tone her current choir director (who is also a music teacher at a nice private school) is working with her one on one to help this. She said she is at 50% matching and she “wants to get her to 80-90%”. ( I don’t know if this is possible).
She also can’t keep a beat, or clap her hands in beat(she’s behind everyone else ) The HARDEST part is that she doesn’t realize she has a problem, so when she goes around the house BELTING OUT a song, my 14 year old falls off the couch in hysterics and I have to threaten his life. Also, at four when we would say, sing “Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star”, she would say, “I don’t like that song, I have my own way of singing it”. She would make up this detailed song about the stars in the sky and the moon, etc., etc. Compensation strategies at work EARLY on. Sad, part is, mom’s not so bright - she made up her own songs b/c she couldn’t remember the words to anything and I thought she was just an OBSTINATE child (Those labels can sometimes start at home)! Still, in 4th grade, can’t say the Pledge of Allegiance unless she is in her group. In fact, (this is odd) recently she told me she doesn’t like riding the am. school bus b/c if they get there too early they have to say the Pledge on the bus and it must REALLY throw her.
BTW, this is the same child who gets STARS on her report card for following direction!! I quit trying to figure it out a long time ago. I just try to remediate it!
Re: CAP & Music Class
<<All APDs are different. My son has severe APD in some areas - but his pitch and memory for tunes is almost perfect! It’s the words in the songs that are the problem for him. :)>>
Hah… sounds exactly like me. I’m notorious for getting lyrics all mangled… or, well, *anything* verbal that I need to remember without being able to see it in writing. (And yes, before someone asks, I do in fact love captioned TV…)
It’s funny, actually. I’m fine at *hearing* pitches, and have always been that way. My problem is in getting my voice to sing the same pitches; I realize that I’m somewhat off, and I just have trouble getting everything working together to produce the right sound… it’s not really a processing problem at all.
On the topic of music classes, something that I absolutely detest, but which may actually help some of the CAPDers with difficulty hearing pitches, is solfege— that is, the assigning of syllables to the notes of the scale (do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti). I personally find it difficult because, as many times as I’ve heard that song from The Sound of Music <grin>, I can never just arbitrarily remember the syllable that goes with a particular note, and instead have to “count” through the scale to find it. It’s strictly a problem of memory, for me, and is probably at least in some way related to the fact that I have so much trouble remembering lyrics; I’ve noticed that if I write the syllables at the top of the page, or even draw a little piano keyboard with the syllables on it (as I’ve played the keyboard for years), it helps.
And yes, I realize I’ve somewhat sidetracked the thread, but I thought this might offer some insight from a CAPD point of view.
CAP affects a persons ability to differentiate between all sounds doesn’t matter its speech, music, backround noise. I have CAP and was never very susccessful in music class, but I didn’t know why at the time. I could never got the tone of the song right. To this day I always sign off key, but I gave up on it a long time ago. Though once I was at a acting camp and had voice lessons there was some improvement, but I probably should have continued it though i just don’t have a good singing voice overall.