Skip to main content

Rsponse to John and others...

Submitted by an LD OnLine user on

Very interesting posts here. To those who remember me… I’m back! Been really busy… but got a new job teaching in a rural school setting. for anyone new who cares to know…. I have several old posts you may find of interest in the Adults with ADHD and Adults with LD.

Now to respond to the posts in this thread….
There is so much “defense” going on here I could’ve sworn that I was at a boxing match. Everyone is an expert… NOT. Many of the posts are well thought out and articulately written… (AA right on the money, straight shootin’ and from the hip, as always) others are written by troubled souls looking for answers, looking for attention or looking for a fight (yes, Ball, good to see you are alive and well). Some “experts” are apparently looking for a podium and an audience.

Not all the messages are written on this board by highly trained and educated experts. Not all the participants of such have average or above average IQs. The board is for the public domain… you have people from all walks of life, mostly looking for ANSWERS and/or ADVICE.

To give flippant responses on this board is creating chaos to those who need more information to unscramble their lives. To give anger filled attacks, engages more anger and scares away the people who really need assistance. Of course most of us are not in the helping professions, but those of us who are LD and or ADHD have a responsibility to respond to our “peeps” in respectful and beneficial manner. Of course we are all going to freely express opinions… but when it gets to the point of attack… DO IT DIRECTLY TO THE ATTACKEE, NOT TO THE GENERAL POPULATION!!!

To those PROFESSIONALS in the helping field… your irresponsible, defensive attitude is out of place here…and quite UNETHICAL. you could learn a lot on this board if you’d keep your ego intact. I have worked in treatment centers where the recovering alcoholic counselors felt they were superior counselors to those that had not had alcohol abuse problems…. that they could understand and help alcoholics better.
It isn’t neccessarily so… And the same applies here. Many non LD or ADHD professionals are able to completely know and understand the people with the above. then again, many keep up with the latest research, know just what to diagnose and recommend for treatment…. but not one ounce of INSIGHT.

Of course all of us LD-ADHD-ers can’t be classified or generalized, and should not be stereotyped. But, many of US think on the other sides of issues…we see life, feel life, experience life in a way that non-ers could only dream of… (Life’s a Trip…So Pack Lightly). Thank God for all of us.

ANYONE WITH BONES TO PICK WITH ME… FEEL FREE. PLEASE…

Georgia

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/10/2002 - 1:19 PM

Permalink

Hi Georgia,
I am fairly new here. I am happy to hear that you got a teaching job. You are one of the lucky ones I guess. Only 10% of the student teachers here in my state got teaching jobs. Either they had to go out side the state or go work for Sam’s club.

I don’t have any bones to pick with you. You have the right for you opinion and anyone else. That is just what it is….is your opinion, just as anyone elses.

I thought this site was for people looking for advice or to help others that has had the same problem in the past? Or have I missed a point somewhere?

We all have different type personalities as you can see with Ball and AA and others. That is what makes a good site! Ball and AA has help me a lot in their post so has all the others.

Yes…Thank God for us all!!

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/11/2002 - 3:17 AM

Permalink

Hi Anita:
I agree with the perks of the site. That was the point I was trying to make. Everyone needs a safe place to vent from time to time. I thank God for Ball as well as AA… I have corresponded with both on a personal level in the past. Both are very intelligent, articulate, passionate people. This board can be loaded with excellent advice, insight and heart touching stories…. as well as truly sad and poignant portrayals of life in the LD and ADHD Lane. This site serves a very needed purpose… If you read the entire thread (Battling Social Services and LD) and (John, Advocate, and Similar Professionals) in the Adults with LD - Older Topics, you will see what I was refering to. I merely pasted my response to John and others here in hopes that it will be read and pondered upon.
Georgia

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/31/2002 - 1:16 AM

Permalink

hi i m 37 cant speel wright do math cant pass test to drive a car cant do noing right y did god put me here like the idont no i work as a house man at a hootill i have do all the jobs no 1wents to do and get made fun of so i tak you on the fight is done now by send me an email w feed bak by

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/31/2002 - 1:21 AM

Permalink

hi i m 37 cant speel wright do math cant pass test to drive a car cant do noing right y did god put me here like the idont no i work as a house man at a hootill i have do all the jobs no 1wents to do and get made fun of so i tak you on the fight is done now by send me an email w feed bak by

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 11/03/2002 - 4:50 AM

Permalink

A bone or two to pick: Anger is a natural response to our condition, our situation and all it entails. 2. The experts do not chime in with anything. Who are the experts? Although I generally respect your opinions I don’t think IQs can be determined by reading one’s post. If fact the next Einstien may be posting here but with his or her cognitive difficulties perhaps it isn’t always apparent. Einstien’s conteporaries who were a lot smarter than you or I thought that dear Albert was quite goofy.

Audience of course….. I would love to hear of many frustrated parents knocking the teeth of some smug down his or her throats. I’d like to see folks get organized and end this farce called Voc Rehab. To me I don’t see this as a place to do the woe is me thing or the woe is us thing. My thing is to encourage people to take action on behalf of themselves, thier loved ones and the cognitvely impaired community at large.

As you know I also see the need to make people aware that the LD industry is not an exact science to put it mildly. Also, I think people should be aware that the LD industry may not have their best interest at heart. so, most of my ravings have been about that.

I have made value judgements and I will continue to make them. Very little that I have read on this board has offended me. If my comments offend anyone it must be because the offendee needs to be offended.

I was offended by one moron who blamed the Jews for the economy and I flamed the Nazi.

Even flippant comments are good you know the old saying; “Homo perfecto candido quib adlib” I guess I’m a hopeless Jerry Springer devotee. You can’t have light without heat I always say. I’m not telling you to go to Oprah {an intelectually dishonest exploiter} but to suggest cencorship of any kind is not a good idea.

I got plenty of warts and I ain’t afraid to show em any more. This brain damaged flea bag is way past any concern of how folks percieve me. “Like a bird on wire like a drunk in a choir, like a worm on a hook” Sometimes the truth is ugly.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 11/03/2002 - 5:28 AM

Permalink

I don’t think it had worms in it. Eric Anderson, one of those totally long-winded guys.

And Jerry Springer isn’t a dishonest exploiter???????? Granted he’s so bloody obvious that any fool should know and granted he’s not intellectual.

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 11/04/2002 - 1:37 AM

Permalink

Hey Ball…. Complaits are neccessary for progress to be made. As long as people roll over and play dead or “follow the herd” right off the side of a dang cliff (yes, I love Nietszche’s writings about the “herd mentality”) no positive progress will ever happen. Obviously, if you read some or all the postings from those who have been through the trenches and lived to tell about it, we do make a great impact on those who need to be heard and even advised. Not to offend any one, but I once had a black department head who remarked to my astonishment with the whacked school system I worked in, “It doesn’t do any good to complain”. My response back to her was, “T, if no one had ever complained, ya’ll still be pickin’ cotton”. I did join the ACLU this week to help out in another work related situation not related to special education or the like. the key is to be proactive. It’s obvious to me that you are very intelligent and passionate. Keep up the battle.
Georgia

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 11/04/2002 - 2:07 AM

Permalink

Brenda,

Jerry Springer could kick Oprah’s butt with one brain tied behind his back. My point was about political correctness and intellectual dishonety. With all her $$$ Oprah can’t keep her mouth shut long enough to stop shoving food in it. Maybe she should do a show about how her fat butt is Stedman’s fault. Maybe she should do a show about LD and brain function and bring on some real experts but that would not have enough warm fuzzies for her audience and any truth about what really makes humans tick will blow her spiritual crap right out of the water therefore making bisquits and gravy an endangered speices.

Back to Top