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Submitted by an LD OnLine user on

Hello,

My daughter was newly diagnosed this week and started Straterra Friday morning (10 mg. for 4 days, 18 thereafter).

How long for anyone’s child on this or similar med. did they or thier childs teachers notice a difference?

Do you have your child seeing a counselor as well?

Books to recommend?

Behavior modification tips?

Thanks for anyones input. God Bless.

Mark

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 06/23/2003 - 12:05 AM

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bump

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 06/23/2003 - 2:47 AM

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Sorry Mark, I’m pretty new to ADHD but I’ll bump this up to the top of the board.

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 06/23/2003 - 5:15 AM

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[size=18]The little man who wrote the above post is suffering terribley, Most of us women have long ago figured out he is making up for another…umm…short coming…

He is putting down meds, saying ADHD doesn’t exist, then blaming the parents for everything. When all that is said and done he tries to sell us chiro therapy. A few members here did a little research and no big surprise, its all a huge scam, as are the studies he refers to and the articles he pastes. [/size]

I myself have found chiropracters to be nothing short of scam artists on most things with the exception of back problems. And even then… The majority of people I know have found the same.

Before anyone reading this falls for a chirotherapy scheme read this;
How are they accredited or qualified to treat a neurological disorder? Don’t listen to a bunch of mumbo jumbo and assume he knows what he’s doing because he uses big words. This is a common smoke screen practiced by Chiropractors. Then speak with your doctor and do some investigating. Don’t just let someone start playing with your childs back. This isn’t some diet or exercise or suppliment. This is someone changing your childs back, the very foundation on which their body depends. Our kids have enough problems. Just be careful with this. These guys don’t know anymore about the human mind than your mailman. I’m all for holistic treatments, some really do work. But this is very invasive. There are many holsitic treatments that aren’y nearly as dangerous and risky as this.

Incidentally, I found it very very hard to find any factual, clinical information on Chiropractic effects on ADHD. A search of the internet didn’t turn up much more than advertisements, sales pitches and claims plainly used to sell this therapy. I hate to sound so closed minded, I’m always up for a new approach. If in your venture, you find any studies, I’d be interested in a link, as would many other members here. The only reputable site I could find on this therapy was a bunch or repected chiropracters debunking the whole thing. They are ashamed of their collegues and feel this is giving the industry a bad name.

I can only add that medicines wear off if they don’t work and you are free to stop them. Suppliments, diets, coffee shakes. You are in control of these treatments. Short of a bad few days at school, there is no permanent or long term damage done to the child. Chiropractors don’t have a very good track record in the permanent damage area. If you have ever spoken to a chiro, they are sales men and have a pitch. RED FLAG. My pahrmacy does not, my neuro does not, my nutritionist does not, our exercise coach does not. . Most ads for this therapy spend more time downing other therapies than touting their own. I find it disappointing that a therapy cannot carry itself, on it’s own merrit. RED FLAG. That it needs to put down other therapies that plainly work for most, to sell it’s self is very suspicous to me. Just do a search of ADHD and chiropratic and you’ll see it is all these kinds of sales pitches. As a self educated openminded mother, those sites insult my intellegence. Give me the facts, prove to me it’s as safe as meds and diets. Don’t put down everything else to make yourself look better. I hate people who do this and I’m not putting any creedence into any therapy approach that needs to do this.

I know as many people who regret ever stepping into a chiro office as were helped. I suffer from RA and I can tell you in the medical profession, especially pain management, the practice of chiro therapy is not held in very high regard and is considered very controversial. RED FLAG. That fact alone makes me leary. My husband has lower back problems. His visits to the chiropractor help tremendously about 50% of the time. I hear this from many many people as well. This tells me one thing. It is not an exact science, even in the field the therapy was inteneded for (back pain). Adjusting a childs back is dangerous. With all due respect my experience with my husbands problems and my RA says that this therapy is a crap shoot and I don’t play craps with the structure of my childs spine. It’s just not worth the possible reprecussions. And these guys are knocking on self defense classes?

I take it very seriously when someone asks my opinion or recommends something or asks me what I recommend. If you read my posts, you will find there aren’t many things I’m not open to trying. With most holistic treatments I say “go for it!”. But not with this one. I’m very very careful about what I recommend. You only need to watch the news and talk to people to see the dangers of messing with someones back.

Submitted by Lizanne on Mon, 06/23/2003 - 2:55 PM

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Mark,

My son has other dxes as well so we do see a counsellor privately. My son has started Concerta which is different thatn Strattera. However, after some time the school was able to report a change in behavior. Even other school staff not charged with my son’s care noticed.
I understand that Strattera does take some time to fully assist your child.
My son was able to also report his own changes.

The counselling my son found most effective for his ADD was with the school social worker who dealt only with the affects ADD was having on his school day. It seemed once he understood why is ideas were so hurried and scattered he was able to modify his brhavior woth her help.

Hope any of this helps.

Liz

Submitted by bgb on Mon, 06/23/2003 - 4:11 PM

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[quote:11f2407815=”Addultmom”][size=18]The little man who wrote etc. etc. etc
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Ah, mom…

Ya better start quoting the person you are posting about or it like looks really, really, odd after the mods clean up …. :oops:

Folks,
Addultmom was not questioning Terry’s masculinity. Some posts were deleted……

:lol:

Submitted by JulieinSC on Mon, 06/23/2003 - 4:48 PM

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My favorite books are “Driven to Distraction”, and “Answers to Distraction” by Edward Hallowell. IMHO, these are must reads! I also recommend ” The ADD/ADHD Checklist, an Easy Reference for Parents and Teachers’ ” by Sandra Rieff.

As I’m sure you know, there is tons of stuff available on ADHD, especially on the internet. Web sites such as CHADD.org, the American Academy of Pediatrics, etc. have lots of good fact sheets. Beware that there is also a lot of contraversial stuff out there as well, so my advice is to read A LOT and take everything with a grain of salt.

As far as how fast meds work, different meds work differently, and kids react differently to meds as well. It is my understanding that strattera takes some tiime, as it has to build up in the child. Meds such as most stimulants don’t have that kind of “ramp up” time, and the effects are noticed fairly quickly.

Of course, ALWAYS make sure to check with your child’s doctor before you do anything regarding meds.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 07/11/2003 - 9:59 PM

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I noticed a difference in my son immediately. When I picked him at preschool, he told me it was the best morning of his life (!) because it was the first time he didn’t find it hard to sit and do his seat work. “Seat work is easy, Mom!” he yelled. And that was on 5 mg. It only got better from there.

But with my other son, I never noticed a difference and ultimately after several medications, we stopped trying. He contends with his ADHD as he has to as no medication ever impacted on it.

Good luck with this. When it works, it can work very well and make a great positive difference in a child’s life.

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