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hello please do not give up many of us have felt the same pain,
have you talk to your counselor at your school if not please talk to your counselor ask for help there is a life and a reason to live it
:lol: please keep in touch do not give up
ttocs

Hi XY -Please do NOT Give up!!!!!
I can relate to what you’re feeling from personal experiance. I have a learning disability called Auditory Processing Disorder(APD). This makes it very hard to understand what other people are saying and dificult to understand conversations. Also I have a problem with my short term memory which makes it very hard to rember things. When I was growing up in school from the 1st grade until I graduated High school, I didn’t have a single friend. I was always pickes on and bullied. I just wanted to die. Back then no one knew what a learning disibility was. I just thought I was stupid and unable to grow up and be a man. After I graduated highschool I went to a tech college and then I got a job working for the Phone co.People treated me better there. Although it never becomes easy, it does get better. Please do not give up. There are other people here who know just what you are going through and care about you. You should get tested to see what kind of LD you have because there are ways to compinsate for them.
Rember - we care about you - Please keep in touch
Charlie

In high school, I had lost all of my friends and my boyfriend had called off our relationship and I had no relationship with my parents. I was desperate and knew that I needed something more. At that time, I didn’t know that I had CAAD(central auditory processing disorder). Anyway, I began searching for the truth of life and wound up reading the Bible and there I also heard God’s voice. I cried out to Him and recieved Christ into my heart. I tell you that because I never felt a love like that before. I suddenly started to see that I was uncondiontionally loved and accepted by Christ and in turn was able to love others the same way. The revelation that I was loved no matter what changed my thinking and my behavior. I had a hope that was bigger than life itself.

Anyway, I want to encourage you to ask yourself if there’s more to life. I don’t know where you are spiritually so I don’t mean to assume anything, I am just sharing with you my experience.

I’m now 33 yrs. old I am married to a loving man. However, I still struggle with this learning disability and I too sometimes believe desparing thoughts but we need each other to help each other succeed. I’ve learned that we can’t live without each other. I need you to share your life stuff and what you’re learning.

I also think that you might want to talk to a minister or someone like a counselor about what you’re going through. If I could do anything differently then I would talk to people who I thought might care. I had a guidence counselor that reached out to me in high school but I didn’t trust him and now I wished that I had talked with him about stuff. They may or may not be able to help you but please don’t give up. You are too precious to let these thoughts these lies kill you.

There are people who care about you and Jesus wants you to know of His unconditional love. I don’t mean to sound preachy but this is all I can offer you.

I will be praying for you.

Heather :)

If all you have to offer in your belief in mythological deities you offer me nothing but ignorance. I’ve studied your religion. I’m a reasonably educated person and do not believe in elves, Santa Clause, or the mythical deity that goes by the alias ‘Jesus’. Please go try spreading your fraudulent, theistic propaganda elsewhere; preferably to an audience of people with IQ’s below room temperature. Cheers.. :D

Hi
I am a mom and I have a daughter who last year said the same things you are saying now. All I can tell you is that you can do anything as long as you beleive in yourself. My daughter Sarah finally graduated HS last year and honestly didn’t believe that she would ever be attending college not even the 4 yr. one that she is attending now. But with hard work, lots & lots of tears and together we worked towards the goal that she truly wanted, to be a teacher for kindergardeners. It is really really hard but we are still working together and she is working as well…a tough battle none the less.. Listen should I be able to help, even if it is just to listen, write me back on my email [email protected]. I can’t promise answers but I’m willing to listen and care…

I hope to hear from you soon. Try to keep your chin up as you do have a friend and someone who cares.

Mary

You said you didn’t care about anything, but then you offered such a scathing ( and, ok, kinda funny) critique of a little religious sentiment that I think you probably care about something.
I am certain that you care deeply about me. 8)

Hey, Brian.

If you want people to listen to you, you need to be polite even if you disagree. Since you have above average intelligence, maybe you could look up “tolerate” and “social skills” sometime. It would go a long way to explaining why you lack friends. This, by the way, is a personality thing, not an LD thing.

You’re almost an adult. If you want to be treated like one, act like one. Contact you school and ask to be tested for LDs. If the specialist find something, work on remediation. One can tell from your posts that you are smart enough to pull off whatever you set your mind too. Do you have the guts to make a positive contribution to society? Or is it just easier to take pot shots at people who try to help you?

Guest:

I don’t have much time for pseudo-intellectuals this morning, so I’m going to make this as brief as possible..

First illogical statement:
If you want people to listen to you, you need to be polite even if you disagree.

Those of us with mental prowess are able to see my reactions have been appropriate. In short, the people whom I would like to listen to me are not Christians. Your generalizations are not universal absolutes.

Second illogical statement:
You’re almost an adult. If you want to be treated like one, act like one. Contact you school and ask to be tested for LDs. If the specialist find something, work on remediation.

I am already treated like an adult, in the real world. Also, ‘testing’ for an LD and remediation is unnecessary, since I’m a straight A student.

The rest is not worth my time replying to. One thing I suggest is for you to follow your own advice and not make character assassinations as you have in the social skills section of this forum directed towards me; in fact, I suggest you not make any references to me at all.

That will be all. More later…

—Brian

Believe it or not, mental prowess doesn’t preclude Christianity, though lots of genuine frauds have been perpetrated by Christianity. I figure no male of the species would have made the deistic claims that Jesus did without it going to his head and waxing patriarchal (which he doesn’t, even though most church official types do), without genuine divine intervention.
What were you once passionate about? Are you in crashing despair of disillusionment?
You are right, though, that humans are pretty strange when it comes to death. They feel rotten about it, especially if someone took their own life… no matter who how or why. They just do. It just causes more pain, but not the kind of pain that teaches. So you might as well muddle through… and you may just find there’s light at the end of the tunnel. (And… if you find yourself running cycles of ups and downs … mark ‘em on a calendar… then at the *very* least know that it is a cycle and will get better, and perhaps consider talking to an expert on mood cycles, efen if you consider yourself of so much more mental prowess than any of them — *true* genius recognizes that unique ideas are everywhere.)

Sue:

I’m not here to debate religion, so I’ll just make things clear and leave it at that. There’s no historical evidence that Jesus Christ existed. No, an historians opinion a couple decades after something supposedly happened is *not* historical evidence. If you think you have historical evidence email it to me: [email protected] | This is not a place to be discussing such matters.

I was once passionate of philosophy, economics, geography, civics, history, literature, ext. Now everything seems so meaningless; plus, I’m currently being side tracked with certain things which I would rather not get into.

I am well aware that my mood changes. I come from a wealthy family so I’m already getting professional help of these issues; IE: psychology, psychiatry, ext.

Ty for your thoughts. It’s appreciated.

—Brian

Oh, there’s no proof… but there’s no proof of a lot of things. No proof didn’t exist, either.
Hope you can stay clear of the vortex.
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Sue:

Good girl, there’s no proof of leprechauns, flying monkeys, or Santa Clause.

Ty for stating the obvious. Want a cookie, m’dear? :lol:

—Brian

If you bother to think it through, there are inherent differences between my example and yours. I’ll trust your prowess to do the thinking — and perhaps to ponder why it seems so important to you to equate the unequal.
And… I’ve read Artemis Fowl… leprechauns are a distinct possibility…

Sue:

Ty for getting rid of all doubt that you have no idea what you’re talking about. Don’t feel too bad, though. You’re a common pseudo-intellectual.

You are dismissed. :lol:

“Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex… It takes a touch of genius – and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.” — Albert Einstein

Oh, I don’t feel too bad… I’ll get over it :-) I can only hope someday you’ll get through or over your fences. (I’m sue, I don’t need to be sue-dough.) It’s not a competition for intellect — you is what you be. As ol’ Dumbledore said, it’s the choices you make that are important, not your raw material. Of course, mine isn’t raw anymore…

Is there anyone in here who’s severely depressed, mentally disturbed, bored, and basically just counting down the days till they die?

Excellent; add me to your MSN list and we’ll keep each other company till one of us has killed themselves: [email protected]

BTW, it would be nice to talk to someone who’s ‘gifted’ with an LD. It seems I might constitute as one. I know when I was 15 according to my testing I was at both math and reading college levels, with a 15 point deficit in grammar. Since then I’ve been out of the special education program and gotten by reasonably well.

I wish my parents would have taken more interest in my education. If they would have cared enough to not let me be a druggie when I was younger, I could have taken the GED back when I was 15 and gone to college from there.

Alas, now I don’t plan on living for much longer. Of course, I wouldn’t blame this on the LD I may or may not have now, but on ‘tards like sue and guest here, who have the audacity to think they have any intellectual authority.

—Brian

“For all the sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these: ‘It might have been.’ ” —John Greenleaf Whittier

I stumbled on this thread this morning. I truly don’t know if you are serious or just like to irritate others and flaunt your intelligence. :wink:

If you are serious, listen up. There are a lot of people who have experienced rotten childhoods. You, evidently, are one of the more fortunate ones as you are obviously very intelligent. I don’t know of anyone who had a perfect childhood and life. Life is what you make of it and how you react to the challenges. What becomes of your life is up to you. It is time to quit blaming your parents and start using the gifts you evidently have. I don’t like listening to the poor me comments. If the doctors you are going to aren’t helping, go to another one.

Dear Brian:

Your wish is granted; I am gifted with an LD. My IQ, last time anyone checked, was 150, and the top of the scale they used. In addition, I have poor auditory skills, and crummy social skills. That last is probably as much related to personality as to anything else, so let me demonstrate it for you. GET A GRIP!! It’s no wonder people dislike you if this is the way you act around them. My eldest, (multiple LDs, NOT gifted, and only 13 years old), is one h$#l of a lot more mature than you are. May I suggest that you kick your drug habit, get your GED, and go to community college? I would also try to stop whining. My youngest (neurotypical, immature for age, and age 6) whines like a cloud of mosquitoes, and I now have a sticker chart with progressive rewards, for those days when she she engages in behavior more worthy of a Kindergartener. Can I interest you in something similar?

shirin:

One question before I abandon this forum and conclude that you’re all idiots: were you dropped on your head when you were younger? Seriously. :lol:

—Brian

Also, I pity your children..

You’ll just have to keep looking for people who meet your requirements, I suppose. See earlier responses about insulting people.

I am 18 last year I felt the same way, tried to shoot myself in December my dad stop it. I spent time in a mental ward, what a trip. I hated everyone, punched out my dad twice. he just kept saying he loved me. I’m HADD, ODD, LD, realy fucked up.. going no where. The psyco doctor asked if I would try a drug, why not I’ve done a bunch… I’m now in community college,
have a few girlfriends and new friends who didn’t know how bad I use to be..
I’m glad i didn’t shoot myself.. cuase I wouldn’t be feeling this good again..
t

Brian, Your posts have really struck fear in me. My son is gifted LD ,also. He was tested last yr. with Stanford achievement and did post high school on everything except, Language,Spelling and Study Skills. He was in 5TH Grade!!!!I am doing everthing in my power to help him. We home school so he has more opportunity to do those things he likes and is good at. He has a learning disability in Written Expression. It sounds like you have really had a tough time. I’m sorry!! Please contact me if there is anything I can do to help. I’m not an intellectual but I am a caring person! Please don’t take your life you are a special person that could and can be a wonderful contribution to our society!! Why doesn’t the school systems see what a loss it is to not educate our brightest children? It’s a disgrace!!Jan

Brian, from your first post I guessed the drug use, the rich and dysfunctional family. Basically Mom and Dad are too busy with work or their social agenda to bother. They prefer sending you to camp all summer instead of getting involve with you. They usually don’t know your friends, wherabouts, or pass time. We are all struggling and feel like giving up at times. If you need them to make you their priority you need to tell them. Taking it out on Sue or anyone else here changes NOTHING.

As for the God thing, have you been following recent researches about consistent changes in brain activities when people pray. Other researches have also showed the human need to believe in a higher power. Noone is telling you to join a cult but trust me you could greatly benefit from soul searching or maybe voluntering at the local shelter/soup kitchen (minus the attitute of course!!!!!)

Dalico,

“Brian, from your first post I guessed the drug use, the rich and dysfunctional family. Basically Mom and Dad are too busy with work or their social agenda to bother. They prefer sending you to camp all summer instead of getting involve with you. They usually don’t know your friends, wherabouts, or pass time. We are all struggling and feel like giving up at times. If you need them to make you their priority you need to tell them. Taking it out on Sue or anyone else here changes NOTHING.”

You’re not a very good psychic; what you said couldn’t have been any further from the truth. My mother was a Christian fanatic, who used to never leave me alone. In fact, when I was 5 she used to perform exorcisms on me, constantly told me lies about the world, and basically smothered all of my potential.

“As for the God thing, have you been following recent researches about consistent changes in brain activities when people pray. Other researches have also showed the human need to believe in a higher power. Noone is telling you to join a cult but trust me you could greatly benefit from soul searching or maybe voluntering at the local shelter/soup kitchen (minus the attitute of course!!!!!)”

Or I could just hit myself over the head with a rock. There’s a difference in brain activity when people meditate, read, solve mathematical equations, etc; it’s a Macroelectrode Technique using an electroencephalograph—this is psychology 101. None of this obviously proves the existence of deities. And yes, Sigmund Freud certainly regarded belief in God as an illusion that mature men and women should lay aside. The idea of God was not a lie but a device of the unconscious which needed to be decoded by psychology. A personal god was nothing more than an exalted father-figure: desire for such a deity sprang from infantile yearnings for a powerful, protective father, for justice and fairness and for life to go on forever. God is simply a projection of these desires, feared and worshipped by human beings out of an abiding sense of helplessness. Religion belonged to the infancy of the human race; it had been a necessary stage in the transition from childhood to maturity. It had promoted ethical values which were essential to society. Now that humanity had come of age, however, it should be left behind.

-Yawns-,
Brian