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One Boy's experience from age 6-8(LOOOOONG)

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I was reading a topic below where intensive clinics like LMB were criticized because they don’t work longterm. I thought I would give an update on our progress. Our background is this. We were living in England where son attended local C of E school at age 5. madatory age. They said they were teaching phonics but saw no evidence of it. Was supposed to read books sent home but was just memorization. Since didn’t see any phonics usually didn’t. He had huge vocab and obviously bright so thought he’d learn quickly when the phonetics kicked in. Now I know this is called “balanced” method and there is no systematic phonetics-tho that may be changing in England and it looks like PG may become more standardized there in schools. Anyway after that year Jack got a pass into 1st grade but evaluation said he couldn’t count to ten consistently and knew his letters only to A and sometimes B. I couldn’t believe that cause he’d gone to a preschool and he’d done all that color ABC stuff. Didn’t make sense. But I found he couldn’t count past 3 consistently and tho he could recognize cap ABC that was about it. I think now all that stuff in preschool he was drawing the letters as shown him by teachers and of course made no connection as to sound or what they were. So I accidentally did 3 things right I think. I didn’t push the reading, I took him out of what would have been first grade-and since most parents start kids at 4 he was oldest in class- and I made plans to take him back to retired friend teacher who’d homeschooled and who thought she could teach him phonetics in about 6 weeks. We ended up staying here 6 mos and by Dec both of us had realized something wrong. But we both knew that brain in there was extremely bright. (When he was eventually tested by LMB the spread between ability and potential was 96%) But we found he could only recognize about 2/3rds of the alphabet about 75% of the time. After almost 6 mos of 4 hours of one on one. His math had improved to about grade level by using manipulatives. By that time we’d decided to send my friend for training at LMB in Ca. ( If she hadn’t offered we’d have prob gone to Boston clinic-very grateful we didn’t. We’ve probably spent the same amount that would have cost but far more effectively over 3 years) And that summer she came and began working with Jack while we were back in England. By end of summer he’d had prob equivalent of 6 weeks at a clinic. And we decided to spend another winter in U.S. so she could continue Seeing Stars. We paid her $10 an hour for 4 hours a day. Last year Jack began reading ads and signs spontaneously as well as books to little bro. The kids and I relocated here for another year , We did IM with Jack this summer but Jackie continued the seeing stars for 2 hours a day also. This fall he is decoding just about any word he encounters, self-correcting but reading slow. Just had eyes checked again and tho glasses corrected his slight double vision last year it is worse this year. So we’ll start VT in Feb. However on jackies suggestion we bought 2nd hand DVD player nad with subtitles on he can read a lot of dialogue and keep up. And hopefully this will improve his reading speed a bit. When he hit 1000 of the Seeing star sight words his fluency really jumped-that was last year. And he won the local reading Rainbow young writers and illustrators prize- a big boost for all of us. (On TV and everything.) This is long but I wanted to add support to those who say LMB and PG work but it needs to be kept up much longer than is usually accounted for. My son joined the local elementary school chess club last year and is playing and winning occasionally against the 3rd graders. He learned on computer that first year-the computer had more patience than Dad. And that seemed to help his math and executive function. IM over the summer really helped math and he’s learned to ride his bike by himself this fall-which I think is IM , too. At 8 Sp and writing are still problematic. Working on keybording this year. Jackie finally concedes spending anymore time on writing is probably not worth it. Still plugging on Sp. I know not all parents can do this but I just wanted to add our experience. Also by end of school year 05 we may be relocating. And Jackie, our tutor, is thinking of taking up selling air purifiers cause she doesn’t think she can get enough pupils consistently in our rural area. I have found her to be an incredibly gifted teacher. I was wondering if there would be any interest in others coming to Ks for 6 week LMB clinic situation if they could get reasonable family accommodation here-maybe even sublet our house- and pay a fraction of the LMB clinic cost. I’d hate to see her talents wasted when i know there are kids out there hurting. What do you guys think??

Submitted by Janis on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 5:28 PM

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Hi, PK,

You surely do have an interesting story! I do often think it is more cost effective to have a tutor trained than to use the clinic, but I guess we all do what is available at the time. But what I want to really emphasize is your point about lsoing skills. I agree 100% that kids only lose skills when they are taught and then never reinforced. You cannot just drop decoding and fluency work after a summer of LMB or PG. That really makes me crazy! True LD kids may need years of practice to become efficient readers.

Just FYI, I have had all the trainings except LiPS at this point, and I hope to take it in late Feb. or either this summer. I have appreciated your help along the way!

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/15/2004 - 5:22 AM

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Haven’t heard from your friend yet. It does seem that for most kids an intensive PG can have the same effect as LIPS. But as someone said-we’re just grateful that it’s there for those who REALLY need it. Jackie did the preschool version with youngest last year then 4 and he began learning letters and numbers within weeks. Maybe it was just coincidence and development kicked in right then but he had seemed to be following pattern of older boy -just not as intense. One of those times Mom prevailed against tutor. She thought he wasn’t ready. Now he’s reading at 5 and seems to be on target for most things. What a relief! But we are doing speech therapy for him. Hope your daughter doing well and all your other students. I’m sure you’ve boosted a lot of little lives. Thanks I’m proud I could be a part of that.

Submitted by Laura in CA on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 10:02 PM

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Hi PK

I remember corresponding with you quite awhile back. I believe at that time you were having your friend trained or about to have her trained.
I’m glad to hear your children are doing so well. You’ve probably read that my son is 9 now and he recently finished 5 weeks at the LMB clinic. I’m now doing about an hour a day of SS with him. He’s only a little over 900 words so we still have a ways to go. The clinic gave me a little pile of word lists to add on once I’m done with these so we have more to do beyond the 1000! Although, hopefully he’ll just begin to easily recognize them all at some point so we’ll no longer need to do all the extra sensory work.

Since we’ve finished at the clinic, I do try to continue working with him daily on SS. Also I have him read about an hour a day. One thing I am noticing is the more he reads the better his fluency seems to be getting. He’ll still get stuck on a word every so often (I have him reading 30 min of something challenging like science or history text books and then 30 minutes of an easy reading book).

I think you’re right about how important it is to continue these programs. Your friend sounds wonderful! Any chance she may want to come to California? There are a LOT of kids in my area with reading difficulties and LMB is over an hour away.

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/17/2004 - 4:16 PM

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HI, I remember you too. I’m glad your son was able to do the LB. My friend who has reached retirment has considered that she outfit an RV and just travel around to different locations doing clinics. But her husband hs a business here and they have parents in ill-health. So we thought that starting a reading clinic here would work for her. And we may be living 6mos in England and 6 mos-winters here. So that would make subletting our house work. We’d just charge enough to protect against any damage and maybe ask people to take care of pets. If this works out I think we could maybe work out house exchange in UK. Jackie and I took the word lists and made up little stories to practice. No challange to Dr. Suess, but it made it easier. And we couldn’t let him read by himself until this year-had to make sure he didn’t start making mistakes. But this year there is such a leap. Ther’s hardly a word he can’t decode. Keep plugging away. Each time is one time less you have to do before his brain gets it. We thought of it like coloring with a very faint pencil. You have to keep going over it and over it until it’s strong enough to see the picture.

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