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To "Born Again"

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Born Again wrote:

<<The activity here has slowed and I am sure you are going to blame it on the trolls but it is because the “trolls” have been telling the truth. >>

I find it to be a dreadful shame how the activity has slowed on this board. There are/were some very good people here who are/were helping me tremendously with my depressed daughter. They are/were giving me the support I lacked in my personal life, and I am/was depending on that support.

Why place “blame” at all, Born Again? Why use such an inflammatory term? You said “the trolls” have been telling the truth. I have read some really nasty, slanderous, disgraceful and juvenile attacks that were hurtful and personal, AND UNPROVOKED, from the ones you call “the trolls”, on this board. That isn’t helpful or productive; it is immature, useless, and takes up space. That isn’t what this board, or any board designed to help parents find information and support, is for. Some of these attacks and derogatory comments were directed at me, and I can assure you they were absolutely inaccurate.

Please bear in mind I do not direct this specifically at you, Born Again. With the “Guest” feature on this board, it is impossible to know who has posted what here.

Generalizations are so often incorrect, rarely even close to the truth, and generalizing about people one doesn’t even know is worse still. It’s got to be dead wrong. It’s not “the truth”. It just isn’t, Born Again.

Mature adults speak to one another with respect and common decency, even if they disagree with each other. It is OK to disagree. It is OK to have an open discussion about disagreements too. It is NOT OK to insult or assassinate the character of parents who come here for help, and are often at their wits end, which is why they have come in the first place. It’s not OK to kick people one doesn’t even know the first thing about, when they are down.

I would hate to see this board die because of this situation.

Submitted by Cathryn on Sat, 03/20/2004 - 6:07 AM

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As is obvious, “Born Again’s” post has been removed, before I could finish my reply. I think my comments are still relevant anyway.

Submitted by victoria on Sat, 03/20/2004 - 7:14 AM

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Cathryn — there are lots of us with you. Hang in there.

I am pig-headed Scots-Dutch-Irish (and there is some tough heredity for you — pig-headed is far too mild a word) and the present troll doesn’t have *near* enough you-know-whats to scare me away.

Actually, my Scots heredity is rising and thinking that the fight is doing you good. You’re getting up a good mad and looking less depressed as you have somewhere outwards to direct that anger. So maybe there’s a silver lining. :lol:

And keep doing those daily troll sighting reports.

Submitted by JenM on Sat, 03/20/2004 - 12:23 PM

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Cathryn, I totally missed Born Again’s post but that’s okay. It sounds to me like a troll born again by what you say. Anyway, I am still here for sure! Things will undoubtedly pick up again! Maybe we all had a busy day. I know I have had one heck of a busy week!

Victoria, I like your philosophy!

Submitted by Dad on Sat, 03/20/2004 - 1:25 PM

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While I do not doubt in the least that the type of postic tactics utilized by SOME posters will indeed make some people shy about committing their questions/thoughts/suggestions to this board, I have also been online long enough to know that at least part of this slow down is likely to be seasonal/cyclical in nature.

Wait until IEP season hits full swing and watch how many posts pop back on.

Have faith all - this is and has been a very good location (LDOnline in general) and we will survive.

Everybody give your child a big hug for me (and no, I do not care if he is 16 and doesn’t want one!)

Submitted by Cathryn on Sat, 03/20/2004 - 1:56 PM

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victoria wrote:

<<I am pig-headed Scots-Dutch-Irish (and there is some tough heredity for you — pig-headed is far too mild a word) and the present troll doesn’t have *near* enough you-know-whats to scare me away.>>

victoria, I enjoy pig-headed people. Both my girls are just that. He doesn’t scare me either. I do not scare easily either.

Jen, you didn’t miss anything by missing “Born Again’s” post. I guess I just got lucky :roll: by being up in the middle of the night… I imagine if the moderators thought that post was worth the read, it would still be here, yes?

I was just finishing my reply last night/this morning, and poof! the post was gone!

Dad, I’ll give my girlies a hug from you. They could use it. That is, if I can drag them away from their video game…

Submitted by victoria on Sat, 03/20/2004 - 11:55 PM

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Dad — what do you mean, sixteen and he? My sweet darling angelic-looking (that is *looking*) blonde fought off physical contact from birth. Insisted, quite forcefully on *seeing* me, had to sleep in a mesh playpen or she’d throw ten catfits, and happy to play and talk — but anything resembling holding more than half a second, well, rather wrestle a wildcat. I forced love and affection on her anyway but it was a battle. We always got a belly-laugh out of popular culture TV and magazines saying all children need is more parental attention — she would scream and hide her head and say she got far, far too much parental attention. I told her that was a sign she got just enough.

Submitted by Cathryn on Sun, 03/21/2004 - 12:18 AM

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LOL, victoria… I’d love to meet your daughter, she sounds like quite a little lady!

My girls hang all over me, ESPECIALLY the older one! She has REQUIRED constant attention since the minute she was born!

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