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504 Question

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I have a child who is classified and is in high school. I find that resource room help usually occurs in a self contained class for a regular class period. There is some inclusion help although it is sparse. There are a few team taught regular education classes, and there are no team taught honors or AP courses. I find that to receive special instrutcion for the most part it requires giving up a class that is open to all non-learning disabled students, but a classified student is barred from access to such classes as long as they need special instruction, because it is in a pull out class most of the time. Does this violate Section 504? What can be done to minimize this, or is this just how it is in high schools in the US? I thought that inclusion would apply to all mainstream classes whether they are advanced or grade level, but I do not see any evidence of this either.

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 10/15/2002 - 11:58 PM

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Dutch,

I assume everyone here knows that parochial schools are private schools and have no obligation to offer anyone anything other than regular ed. I happen to have a friend who is a degreed, certified, LD teacher and she is employed in a parochial school. I was just mentioning that it is a possibility that SOME private schools offer LD services to some degree.

Considering the poor quality of some public school special ed. programs, I figure it can’t hurt to make a phone call to ask if there are other alternatives, can it?

Janis

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 10/16/2002 - 4:32 PM

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You don’t need or want to have both plans HOWEVER the Federal law states if you are qualified under IDEA, you have automatic qualification and protection under 504 and ADA.

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 11:49 PM

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We must be neighbors because that is exactly what goes on here. 6 years ago my son was admitted our local Catholic school but they reserved the right to disadmit him the first year. Tthey also sent a home a letter saying he would need a structured home program to keep up with the curriculum. I guess they thought that they were doing me a big favor after all I have been consciencely putting in contibutiuon enevelopes. It came down to: do I pay to put him in a class of 35 where he can be invited to leave or a class of 20 in a public school where they are obligated to try to teach him. The public school didn’t succed but at least I can hold them accountable.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/18/2002 - 12:09 AM

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>What we think is a problem just for the sped kids, actually is a problem for most kids, the only difference is ours have an IEP.<

I and other moms with LD kids have been feeling this way for years. Why the regular cirriculum philosophy folks havn’t figured this out is beyond me. Teach ALL subjects in a direct multisensory way. If a few kids are bored, send em to the gifted resource room.

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/21/2002 - 5:51 PM

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I realize that the laws vary from state to state, but it is indeed a fact that ALL students who receive and IEP and are covered under IDEA are also covered under 504 and can receive accommodations (theirs are listed on the IEP though instead of 504 paperwork). 504 is anti-discrimination policy and therefore ANYONE in ANY state who is determined to have an educational disability is indeed covered under 504.

By the way, I am not trying to be sarcastic, as some may think…I am just trying to get out the most accurate information possible for all readers who are on this website. Also, I did read all of the posts very carefully before responding - perhaps well all need to clarify some of our posts.

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